【键盘侠】锡伯杜曾在季前赛让JB打全场|老詹只有一个

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【键盘侠】锡伯杜曾在季前赛让JB打全场|老詹只有一个

Back in 2012, Thibodeau played Jimmy Butler all 48 minutes in a preseason game against the Timberwolves

回溯到2012年,(时任公牛主帅的)锡伯杜曾在对阵森林狼的季前赛中,让吉米-巴特勒打满48分钟。

Source: https://chicago.sbnation.com/2012/10/14/3501232/chicago-bulls-2012-jimmy-butler

With Deng getting a night off to rest a groin injury in Chicago's 82-75 preseason loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves Saturday, replacement Jimmy Butler stepped right into Deng's role, playing the entire 48 minutes.

新闻来源:https://chicago.sbnation.com/2012/10/14/3501232/chicago-bulls-2012-jimmy-butler

“在周六公牛以75-82不敌明尼苏达森林狼的季前赛比赛中,鲁尔-邓因腹股沟伤势缺阵,而顶替他出场的吉米-巴特勒则打满了全部48分钟。”

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[–][BOS] Jayson Tatum IntergalacticWZRD 2885 points 1 day ago

That’s absolutely ridiculous.

You know it’s kinda funny. My highschool coach was a real hard ass Former marine, he’s been coaching for 40+ years. Coached against Marcus Camby at the highschool level. He’s very similar to Thibs in style and demeanor and of course half way through my senior season we find out that him and Thibs are on first name basis with each other. They even had dinner when Thibs was in town playing the Celtics.

塔图姆球迷:这真的是太无法无天了。

说起来也是搞人。我的高中教练是个作风非常硬派的前海军陆战队员,他已经执教四十多个年头了。曾带队对阵过高中时期的马库斯-坎比,他的执教风格和举止和锡伯杜很相似。结果在我高三的赛季的中途,我们发现他和锡伯杜交情匪浅啊。锡伯杜带队来波士顿挑战凯尔特人的时候,他们还共进晚餐……

[–]F7U12_ANALYSIS 940 points 1 day ago

Do you think he would’ve played jimmy butler 48 minutes in a preseason game?

你觉得你的高中教练会让巴特勒在季前赛中打满48分钟吗?

[–]Thunder carmelol_assthony 703 points 1 day ago

I feel like even a real-hard-ass-former-marine wouldn’t play Butler for 48 mins in a preseason game. That is absurd.

雷霆球迷:我是觉得,即便是一个混账至极的前海军陆战队员也不会在季前赛比赛中让巴特勒打满全场的。这太离谱了。

[–]Salami_On_Rye 166 points 1 day ago

I've been to a couple of preseason games over the years as there's no NBA team in my city. (Well, there was. Two of 'em in fact.) I've never seen a starter actually log minutes in the second half. And both times, at least one star was not even at the game.

As a fan of the sport, it would be cool to see a great player actually playing a full game in preseason. As a fan of the team, it would be stupefying.

这些年来,我还是去看过两场季前赛比赛的,虽说我的城市没有NBA球队(好吧,曾经有,还有两支呢:圣地亚哥火箭和快船)。我还从未看过哪个首发球员在下半场还上场的,并且至少有一名球星甚至都不会出场。

站在体育迷的立场看,看到球星在季前赛中打满全场是很爽的。但要是队粉的话,那就觉得是智障了。

[–]pubgplayer14 123 points 1 day ago

and that's why a lot of the starting bulls came out super injured or with chronic pains.

Thibs played them like workhorses because he's an idiot and to top it all off, the Bulls medical staff are the most incompetent group of trainers in all of sports. Check Luol Dengs story. That shit fucking SUCKS.

所以说,公牛的很多首发球员要么重伤报废,要么伤病不断。锡伯杜死命用他们,因为他自己是个二货。除此之外,公牛的队医也是体育行业最不称职的一帮人。看看鲁尔-邓的经历就知道了。这事儿真踏马操蛋。

[–]94savage 20 points 1 day ago

None of Thibs players hate him or think he ruined their careers. Stop making stuff up

锡伯杜执教过的球员里,还没任何人讨厌他或者控诉锡伯杜毁了他们职业生涯的。你就别挑事儿了。

[–]Bulls Ar4bAce 27 points 1 day ago

Butler wasnt Jimmy Butler in 2012.

公牛球迷:2012年的巴特勒可没有如今的地位。

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[–]Raptors Bowiescorvat2 1469 points 1 day ago

What the fuck. This guy has a fetish for Jimmy, if I was Jimmy I'd get the fuck away too

猛龙球迷:CTMD。这货是不是对使用巴特勒有啥怪癖,要我是JB早特么走人了。

[–]NBA dreamofbeans 569 points 1 day ago*

Maybe that’s how he gave Jimmy the confidence to improve. Maybe Luke should play Josh Hart 48min later he might turn into the next Jimmy

也许这就是锡伯杜给予巴特勒进步的信心的方式。也许沃顿以后也应该让约什-哈特打满48分钟,这样哈特就能成长为下一个巴特勒了。

[–]Bulls JR_Swiiish 382 points 1 day ago

Maybe he should play Wiggins for 48 every game for the rest of the year

公牛球迷:照你这么说的话,那锡伯杜这个赛季每场比赛都该让威金斯打满48分钟。

[–]username--_-- 62 points 1 day ago*

I feel like there is an argument on both sides for this. In 2012, Jimmy was just coming off a rookie year, as a 2nd late first round pick where he got almost no playing time.

Might as well give the guy as much playing time as possible in the preseason, when nothing matters, than in the regular season when every game matters. Plus Jimmy seems like the guy, who at the prove it stage of his career, would have been absolutely ecstatic at getting that type of opportunity.

我觉得这事儿还得一分为二的看待。毕竟在2012年的时候,巴特勒才结束自己的处子赛季,作为一个首轮末位秀,他几乎没啥上场时间。

倒不如在季前赛中尽量多给时间让他上场,毕竟比赛也不打紧,总比在常规赛中每场比赛都很重要的时候去历练他要好吧。何况巴特勒那会儿还处在急需证明自己的阶段,能够得到那种机会,他肯定是求之不得的。

[–]Splashshots 960 points 1 day ago*

Do be fair in 2012 Jimmy was just in his second season and didn’t play a ton as a rookie. It’s not like Thibs was playing one of his star players 48 minutes, he was playing a young guy to give him more experience.

Edit: Guys I realize he still shouldn’t be playing anyone 48 minutes a game let alone in the preseason. I’m just trying to put some context out there.

有句讲句啊,2012年的巴特勒还只是职业生涯的第二个赛季,他在菜鸟赛季又没啥上场机会。锡伯杜又不是让自己手下的哪个球星打满48分钟,他只是让一个年轻队员积累更多的比赛经验啊。

补充说明:各位老哥,我知道他不该在一场比赛中让任何人死操48分钟,更别提季前赛了。我只是想交代一下事情的背景。

[–]Thunder jd_beats 276 points 1 day ago

I was about to post this... Jimmy didn’t take off until really the next year after this... 48 minutes is probably too much, but giving big playing time to a guy that still needs lots of experiences to develop into a great player isn’t that weird.

雷霆球迷:我也打算说这事儿来着……巴特勒正是在这之后的一个赛季才迎来飞跃的……或许48分钟太多了,但是给予这么一位急需比赛经验的年轻球员如此充足的上场时间,好让他成长起来,这也没啥大惊小怪的吧。

[–][DEN] Nikola Jokic RedSoxEatPoop 90 points 1 day ago

48 minutes is 48 minutes though dawg...in a preseason game that is insane.

[–][MIL] Michael Redd philosophickle 232 points 1 day ago

约基奇球迷:但那可是48分钟啊,哥……还是在季前赛中,这真是荒唐。

[–]Magic Herakleios 31 points 1 day ago

Eh... I think playing ANYONE 48 minutes in a preseason game is insane.

Honestly, playing someone more than 30 minutes in a preseason game is also kind of crazy... I feel like one of the big points of preseason is to try a bunch of different lineups and see just how deep your bench really is...

魔术球迷:呃……反正我就觉得任何人在季前赛里打满48分钟都是很离谱的。

老实说,任何人在季前赛中出场超过30分钟就有点疯狂了……我觉得季前赛重要的一点意义在于,尝试几套不同的首发,看看球队的板凳深度如何……

[–][MIL] Michael Redd philosophickle 232 points 1 day ago

Playing 48 minutes drastically increases your chances of injury. It's just unprofessional and dangerous to play someone-- anyone-- that long.

里德球迷:打满48分钟就会增加受伤的几率。让任何球员打这么长的时间,这种做法非常不职业,也很危险。

[–]Raptors Astro_Sloth 86 points 1 day ago

Except LeBron James

猛龙球迷:除了勒布朗-詹姆斯

[–]Jazzs altnvinegar26 100 points 1 day ago

Lebron isn’t mortal though.

爵士球迷:但是勒布朗不是凡人啊。

[–]Knicks CoilConductor 32 points 1 day ago

honestly LeBron is just hard to bench

尼克斯球迷:讲真,勒布朗真的很难坐板凳。

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[–]JohnParish 143 points 1 day ago

I would think even if that was the regular season, it would be absurd. If you are Lebron in the playoffs, sure, play the whole game, otherwise, nobody should be playing the whole game in this day and age unless everything is on the line.

"Thibodeau also noted that he could get away with playing Butler big minutes because Butler has worked hard on his conditioning this offseason." that's such a load of shit man. Nothing was on the line.

即便不是季前赛而是常规赛,我觉得打满48分钟也是荒唐的。如果你是季后赛里的詹姆斯,那没毛病,可以打满全场,否则,这个年代没有任何人应该去打满全场,除非形势所逼。

至于那种“锡伯杜还指出,他让巴特勒打那么多的时间而毫发无损是因为JB休赛期训练有方”的说法,这特么纯粹扯淡。季前赛里还有啥要紧的?

[–]Knicks diablofreak 20 points 1 day ago

Everything was on the line for that pre season game. Maybe he had all his money in Vegas.

(Can you gamble on a preseason game)

尼克斯球迷:季前赛怎么就不重要了?也许他在拉斯维加斯押下了全部家业呢。

(季前赛能下注吗?)

[–]76ers ManSoldWorld 72 points 1 day ago

Thibodeau is just a pure competitor, but in the worst possible way. He has that vision of basketball perfection, but he goes about it like a dumbass: playing your players into the ground

76人球迷:锡伯杜纯粹就是个竞争者,不过是以那种最糟糕的方式。他非常追求完美,但他的方式就像个傻X一样:死命糟蹋球员。

[–]jtsports272 20 points 1 day ago

He is just plain stupid : people are not robots there is a point where everyone gets tired and performance declines

这货蠢得无药可救了:球员又不是机器人,到了临界点就会因疲惫而表现乏力的。

[–][SAS] Matt Bonner bb1432 302 points 1 day ago

I was on the Thibs is a shitty coach because of his rotations train for at least that long.

I welcome the company.

邦纳球迷:我在那会儿就坚持认为锡伯杜是个水货教练了,因为他的轮换菜的不行。

欢迎加入我的阵营。

[–][DAL] Dennis Rodman wonderboy0 516 points 1 day ago

This is bordering on unhealthy obsession and Jimmy needs to get the fuck outta there

罗德曼球迷:他对巴特勒的迷恋有些病态了,JB赶紧走人吧。

[–]Pistons drcash360-2ndaccount 292 points 1 day ago

Pour one out for D Rose and Loul Deng

活塞球迷:为罗斯和鲁尔-邓感到难过。

[–]Rolodox 150 points 1 day ago

This guy Thibs killed DRose 3 years into his career smh

这货在罗斯的职业生涯第三年就把他用废了……

[–]Pistons drcash360-2ndaccount 133 points 1 day ago

Up double digits in game 1 with 1 minute left....

系列赛第一场(2012年季后赛首轮公牛vs76人,公牛领先12分的时候罗斯左膝盖前交叉韧带撕裂)只剩一分钟领先两位数的情况下罗斯还在场上……

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant Malificari 101 points 1 day ago

that wil forever triggered me. fuck that game and fuck thibs. i called that injury too when i was watching the game with my brother.

科比球迷:这是我永远的痛。傻X比赛,傻X锡伯杜。我和哥们儿看那场比赛的时候就觉得罗斯可能会受伤。

[–]Bulls LeZygo 13 points 1 day ago

He likes to grind players into dust. He did D-Rose's career no favors.

公牛球迷:他就喜欢玩命地用球员。他对罗斯的职业生涯没有任何帮助。

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