【键盘侠】近十年最佳阵出炉|中锋式微 霍华德是最大遗珠?

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【键盘侠】近十年最佳阵出炉|中锋式微 霍华德是最大遗珠?

2010s All-Decade Team: 1st team: Curry, Harden, James, Durant, Leonard. 2nd team: Paul, Westbrook, Davis, Griffin, Anthony. 3rd team: Wade, Bryant, George, Aldridge, Antetokoumpo.

NBA官网评选了21世纪第二个十年里的最佳阵容。一阵:库里、哈登、詹姆斯、杜兰特和莱昂纳德;二阵:保罗、威少、安东尼-戴维斯、格里芬、安东尼;三阵:韦德、科比、乔治、阿德和字母哥。

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[–]Heat s pyda34 1108 points 9 hours ago

Kinda weird seeing all decade team without centers, the league has changed so much in last 10 years

热火球迷:看到近十年的全部三阵里都没有中锋还是有点奇怪的,过去十年联盟真的改变太大了。

[–]Raptors ElectricFrankie 324 points 8 hours ago

No Dwight Howard? Ouch

猛龙球迷:没有霍华德?呃

[–][CLE] Kevin Love quentin-coldwater 369 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, that's a glaring omission IMO. In the first half of the decade he had 5 All-NBAs (3 1sts) and 2 DPOYs and finished 4th, 2nd, and 7th in MVP voting.

I'd 100% put him ahead of Giannis for this past decade.

骑士球迷:是啊,我觉得这是明显的遗漏。就这十年的前半段,霍华德5次进入赛季最佳阵(三次一阵),两度当选赛季最佳防守人,在MVP投票中分别排过第4、第2和第7.

[–]Celtics Mexter-Dorgan 85 points 5 hours ago

over Aldridge too. Hell that is all more impressive than Melo too.

凯尔特人球迷:他应该在阿尔德里奇前。而且这数据也比甜瓜耀眼啊。

[–]thartle8 91 points 6 hours ago

I think Dwight should be somewhere on here. He wasn’t dominant for long but just as long as Giannis has been. But that’s about the only center I could think of belonging near this list

我觉得霍华德应该榜上有名。他的统治力确实没有持续很长时间,可是也和字母哥一样啊。不过话说回来了,我唯一能想到的、属于这份榜单的中锋,基本只有霍华德。

[–][PHI] Francisco Elson LetsConquerThisBread 69 points 6 hours ago

Dwight was still great early in the 2010s, but long enough to make the All-Decade team? Idk. His peak kinda fell awkwardly in between the 2000s and 2010s

76人球迷:霍华德在本世纪第二个十年依然是很出色的,可是巅峰期长到足以进入最佳阵吗?不好说。他的巅峰有点尴尬,恰好夹在本世纪头十年和第二个十年之间。

[–]thartle8 71 points 6 hours ago

Yeah 2008-2012 were his peak years but 2010-2012 were still a dominant 3 years. Giannis is on this list with only 3 really good years.

是啊,08到12年是他的巅峰,可是10到12年仍然是很有统治力的三年啊。字母哥就是凭借着目前仅有的三个赛季高光进入了最佳阵。

[–]NBA tdotRuk 69 points 7 hours ago

Ya seems like they value the end of the decade more than the start.

比起这个十年的开端,貌似评选人更看重末段的表现。

[–]Warriors DeadZombie9 74 points 6 hours ago

And yet Kobe and Wade are on the list. It seems like they just don't like centers.

勇士球迷:即便这样,可科比和韦德不都有份嘛。貌似他们就是不喜欢中锋吧。

[–]shadracko 47 points 5 hours ago

This is a great point. Dwight went #4, #2, #7 in MVP voting in '10-'12, and was an all-star 2 more years after that.

Giannis went #7, #6, #1 for '17-'19.

As much as Dwight is a lazy joke with a skill set that hasn't aged well, he was a beast who made a huge impact. Probably some recency bias there. Advanced stats don't love Dwight, though.

说的也没错。霍华德在10到12年的MVP投票名次依次是第四、第二和第七,在这之后还能两度入选全明星。

而字母哥在17到19年的MVP投票名次分别是第7、第6和第1.

虽说霍华德没少被人嘲笑懒惰,他的技术能力也随着年龄增长而下滑,可是他之前在场上也是个很有影响力的怪物啊。或许评选的时候还是有近期偏好吧。不过高阶数据也对他不利。

[–][PHI] Eric Snow PhillyFreezer_ 60 points 8 hours ago

It was a dry spell for C's. The league hasn't changed, there just weren't that many good C's during that time. Look at the list of C's now. Embiid, Jokic, Gobert, KAT, Vucevic, Cousins, Drummond, Capela, Whiteside. All pretty damn good players and a few franchise centerpieces. 2 of the biggest impact defenders in the league are C's right now so it's not like the league has moved past them. The league quite literally can't get passed them lol

76人球迷:这十年就是中锋的人才匮乏期。联盟并没有变多少,只是这些年没有涌现出当年那么多的出色的中锋。看看如今的中锋,恩比德、约基奇、戈贝尔、唐斯、武切维奇、考辛斯、庄神、卡佩拉和白边。都特么是些很不错的球员,有几个还是球队的基石。当年联盟影响力最大的防守球员里有两个是中锋,所以不能说是联盟发展到了可以忽视中锋的地步。

[–][PHI] Joel Embiid sharke93 29 points 8 hours ago

Yeah there will be more centers on the all 2020 teams most likely

76人球迷:是的,很可能到了下一个十年的最佳阵会有更多的中锋球员。

[–]NBA F7U12_ANALYSIS 20 points 6 hours ago

The league hasn't changed

Yes it certainly has mi amor. Over the last ten years the game has gotten way more inside-out than outside-in, which has diminished the importance of Bigs.

“联盟并没有变多少,”不,肯定的变了的,亲。过去十年,比起外传内战术,内传外战术要多得多了。这就削弱了中锋的重要性。

[–]Rockets Melonprimo 483 points 9 hours ago

Embiid rose too late. If he performed at least from his 2nd year, at least he'd be at third team.

火箭球迷:恩比德出现得太晚了。如果他哪怕能从进入联盟的第二个赛季就展现统治力,那他至少能进第三阵。

[–]Heat spyda34 94 points 9 hours ago

Yeah your right about that he defo would have gotten maybe I would throw in hoford as well even do he is not a true center he played most of his career as center

热火球迷:你说的没错,他肯定有份的。或许我会把霍福德也算上,虽说他不是纯中锋吧,可他职业生涯大部分时间都打中锋位置。

[–]Rockets Melonprimo 145 points 9 hours ago

Also we forgot about KAT. Man has been balling since his rookie year, but not a single mention.

The shakiest in this team, imo, is Kobe Bryant and LaMarcus Aldridge. Klay or Dame could replace him but Kobe is such a big name to ignore. Al Horford, Gasol brothers, or Dwight (he was good from 2010 to 2015, so 6 years of production?) could replace Aldridge as well.

火箭球迷:咱们也别忘了唐斯啊。这老弟从处子赛季开始就一直打的不错,可是都没人提他。

我觉得这个最佳阵里最站不住脚的是科比和阿尔德里奇。克莱或者利拉德可以替代科比,但是科比毕竟名望在那儿摆着。霍福德、加索尔兄弟或者霍华德(10到15年他还是很强的,这就有6年的输出了吧?)都能换掉阿德。

[–]Kevin_Durants_Alt 137 points 8 hours ago

Kobe belongs on the 2000s all decade team. First team, even. Putting him in for the 2010s is unjustifiable, purely a name pick

科比属于本世纪头十年最佳阵的。甚至是一阵。把他放到这次的最佳阵里有点不合理,纯粹是看名望。

[–]No Seks 269 points 7 hours ago

First team, even.

Why the even lol he's absolutely first team

“甚至是一阵”

你这甚至是哪冒出来的,哈哈。他绝对的一阵啊

[–]NBA TheAmbitious1 74 points 7 hours ago

How the fuck is putting Kobe on the 2010s all decade team unjustifiable but putting Giannis is ok? Kobe had 3 great seasons this decade, same as Giannis

连字母哥都能进最佳阵,那特么科比进了咋就不合理了?和字母哥一样,科比这个十年也有三个出色的赛季。

[–]Celtics Conor27 69 points 6 hours ago

Yeah having Giannis on here and having Kawhi on the first team are probably the two most questionable picks, imo.

凯尔特人球迷:对的,我觉得把字母哥放到三阵、莱昂纳德放进一阵或许是这个榜单里最值得商榷的。

[–]Warriors The_Void_Reaver 56 points 6 hours ago*

I think Kawhi is justified because his name is permanently tied to two Finals and two FMVPs. I could understand putting AD up there if you wanted to go mostly on stats but, IMO, after last season Kawhi 100% deserves 1st team all decade. Like it said in the article, the first team won 10 championships this decade.

勇士球迷:我觉得小卡很合理,因为他的名字已经永远地和两个FMVP两次总决赛绑一起了。如果你想主要参照数据选人,那我也能理解戴维斯的入选。我觉得吧,上赛季过后,卡哇伊绝对配得上这十年最佳一阵的一席之地。就如文章中所言,一阵这十年拿了10个总冠军。

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[–][GSW] Kevin Durant shanetrey5 77 points 10 hours ago

Incredibly lucky to have gotten to see all this generations unique legends at the top of their game.

勇士球迷:能够见证这代独一无二的传奇球星们的巅峰时期,真是幸运至极。

[–][OKC] Russell Westbrook thugangsta 13 points 8 hours ago

I know right. It's so exciting to watch NBA right now.

雷霆球迷:我现在已经很期待看比赛了!

[–]76ers Johns-Roast-Pork 316 points 9 hours ago

I can dig it. These players are all worthy, especially considering it’s an All-Decade team.

76人球迷:这份榜单我可以接受,这些人都实至名归,何况这是一份十年最佳阵。

[–][TOR] Morris Peterson whodthefookisthatguy 103 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, this is a really accurate list imo. Is it voted on by media or how is it decided?

猛龙球迷:对头,我觉得这份榜单确实没毛病。那它是由媒体投票出来的呢,还是其他方式?

[–][ORL] Vince Carter derekcpl[S] 45 points 9 hours ago

Players were chosen by a panel from NBA.com and NBA TV.

魔术球迷:他们是由NBA官网和官方电台组成的专家组评出来的。

[–]Thunder klatcd 929 points 8 hours ago

Otherwise known as the Oklahoma City Thunder all-decade roster.

雷霆球迷:这份榜单也可以叫做雷霆十年最佳阵。

[–]MagicTheHornyHobbit 28 points 6 hours ago

Isn't it? Am I missing someone?

Harden, Durant, Westbrook, George

魔术球迷:是嘛?看看我漏了谁没有?

哈登、杜兰特、乔治、威少

[–]Lakers KDBurner_ 28 points 6 hours ago

Melo

甜瓜啊

[–]Thunder Mitropa69 198 points 6 hours ago*

And that’s not counting CP3 who is on OKC now.

雷霆球迷:这还没算今夏加盟的保罗。

[–]Hornets philjacksonspeyote 43 points 8 hours ago

It’s absolutely shocking that OKC didn’t win a title this decade.

黄蜂球迷:雷霆这十年居然没一次夺冠,绝对震惊啊、

[–]blackpenance 15 points 6 hours ago

More shocking they didn't pay Harden lmao

更震惊的是他们当年没有续约哈登,哈哈哈

[–]Apple Muffin12 59 points 7 hours ago

That many good players...

雷霆涌现太多出色的球星了……

[–][MEM] Allen Iverson 5t3v3n23 1149 points 9 hours ago

Cant believe they put Thanasis Antetokoumpo on the all-decade team.

灰熊球迷:居然还把字母哥他哥放到最佳阵了,不可思议哦

[–][ORL] Vince Carter derekcpl[S] 519 points 9 hours ago

Thomas Bryant on 3rd team is questionable too

魔术球迷:三阵里的托马斯-布莱恩特也有问题呢

[–]Bulls tummysqueker[] 106 points 8 hours ago*

Meyers L3G3ND definitely deserves to be on the 1st team though

公牛球迷:可是一阵里的迈尔斯-莱昂纳德绝对没毛病。

[–][LAC] Bill Walton PMinisterOfMalaysia 16 points 6 hours ago

I can't believe Paul George made the second and third team.

快船球迷:保罗-乔治既进了二阵又进了三阵,不敢信啊

[–][LAL] Rick Fox melperz 37 points 8 hours ago

James Harden is so good he was listed twice

湖人球迷:詹姆斯-哈登太厉害了,他的名字被提了两次。

[–]Suns clearsurname 20 points 9 hours ago

Uhh anyone gonna comment on the lack of Nowitzki here? He won a championship against the Heat big 3 this decade

太阳球迷:这份榜单没有诺维茨基有谁要说点什么吗?这十年,他可是在热火三巨头头上拿过一个冠军的。

[–]Mavericks Compton528 56 points 7 hours ago

Dirk gotta be on here if we putting Giannis.

独行侠球迷:要是字母哥都能上,那德克肯定得有。

[–]Raptors TyCooper8 42 points 4 hours ago

the whole list has hella bad recency bias

猛龙球迷:这整个榜单里的近期倾向不要太明显哦

[–]seasodiumchloride 111 points 7 hours ago

Somebody forgot Dirk played basketball. Really well.

有些人忘了德克也打过篮球。真棒

[–]Suns iamadragan 28 points 6 hours ago*

I thought so too but he only made 4 all star games this decade, one 2nd team and one 3rd team all-nba. He doesn't really have an argument for this decade

太阳球迷:我开始也这么认为,可是德克这个十年只有四次入选全明星啊,一次赛季最佳阵二阵、一次三阵。要说入选这十年的最佳阵,还真站不住脚、

[–][DAL] Steve Nash aceofspadez138 19 points 4 hours ago

They counted it from 09-10. He had two second team and one third team selection, 5 all-star selections, and a championship. I don’t know if that’s enough to make it, but something to consider. Might be more deserving over one of the third teamers.

独行侠球迷:这十年是指从09/10赛季开始算的。诺维茨基两次赛季最佳阵二阵、一次三阵,五次进全明星,还有一个冠军。这些成绩够不够入选我不知道,可是总有得说吧。或许德克比近十年最佳阵三阵里的其中更该入选。

[–]Suns iamadragan 8 points 4 hours ago

Oh I didn't know that year counted. Then yeah he should've definitely been in consideration. Probably moreso than Giannis especially with the 2011 finals.

太阳球迷:哦,我之前不知道那个赛季也算。那这样的话,德克肯定应该被予以考虑的。或许比字母哥更配,毕竟有11年的总决赛。

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[–]Warriors klankthompson 42 points 11 hours ago

Il take this decades top 5 vs any. I said it.

勇士球迷:我觉得最佳阵一阵的五人可以和任意时期的五人抗衡。我说的!

[–]Kevin_Durants_Alt 96 points 10 hours ago

That's not crazy, but I think I'd have to bet on 90s. Stockton, Jordan, Pippen, Olajuwon, Shaq? Or something like that. Yeesh

也正常,不过我更看好90年代的一阵。斯托克顿、乔丹、皮蓬、奥拉朱旺,或者是奥尼尔这个级别的?

[–]Lakers KobilleBryeal 43 points 10 hours ago*

Give me 2000s.

Dwade Kobe Lebron Duncan Shaq

Shaq would have a field day with any of those guys guarding him.

湖人球迷:那我选本世纪头十年的、

韦德、科比、詹姆斯、邓肯和奥尼尔。

不管谁防奥尼尔,都是送。

[–]Pelicans PattyMaHeisman 44 points 9 hours ago

80s would be as good too, imo. Magic, Bird, Jordan, Hakeem, Kareem, Dr. J, or whoever else you’d have top 5.

鹈鹕球迷:我觉得80年代的五人也很强。魔术师、伯德、乔丹、奥拉朱旺、贾巴尔或者J博士,反正选前五吧。

[–]Knicks BanBandwagonersNow 60 points 9 hours ago

Melo getting some respect.

尼克斯球迷:甜瓜这次终于得到了一些尊重。

[–][OKC] Russell Westbrook thugangsta 22 points 8 hours ago

As he should

雷霆球迷:应该的。

[–][IND] George Hill NABAKLAB 10 points 6 hours ago

Yeah. He's one of the few ones who have put up 10K points for two different franchises.

步行者球迷:是的。他是少数几个为两支不同球队得分破万的球员之一。

[–]Wizards bforbes0605 472 points 9 hours ago

Wade/Kobe/Giannis are questionable, the 2010s won’t be any of their best decades

奇才球迷:韦德、科比和字母哥的入选还是得打个问号,近十年不会是他们任何一个人的最佳十年。

[–]benson822175 31 points 7 hours ago

Early 2010s wade and Kobe were still top 2 SGs in the league for a while and both won rings in the decade so it makes sense to me

这个10年的初段,韦德和科比还是联盟前二的分卫。而且俩人都在这期间夺冠了,所以我觉得榜单没问题。

[–][MIA] Josh Richardson THEKIDFL6 98 points 10 hours ago

Kobe? Yes Ik he won them the ‘ship in 2010 but is that really enough, paired with the fact he only played half of the decade, and most of it he was hurt/not his former self

热火球迷:科比呢?是,我知道他在湖人夺冠了,可这真不够。而且他这个十年只打了一半的时间,大多数时候要么伤病,要么不再是之前那个科比。

[–]Lakers LovetheNBA23 98 points 9 hours ago

He had 4 All-NBA first teams in the decade. That's more than Kawhi and one less than Harden.

湖人球迷:那他在这个十年四次入选赛季最佳阵一阵啊。这比小卡还多,比哈登少一次。

[–]Nets LiaM_CS 29 points 10 hours ago

Yeah Kobe’s only real accomplishment was the chip in 2010. And if that’s good enough to get him in then Dirk should probably be in for aldridge as well.

篮网球迷:是啊,科比近十年真正的成就只有那个冠军。如果凭这就能让他入选近十年最佳阵,那德克或许该换掉阿德。

[–]Raptors austine567 30 points 7 hours ago

1st team all NBA isn't an accomplishment anymore? or All-Defensive?

猛龙球迷:难道赛季最佳阵一阵都不算成就了吗?赛季最佳防守阵也不算?

[–]Mavericks RaefLaFriends 34 points 8 hours ago

Lillard prolly had a better decade than Kobe.

独行侠球迷:就这十年来说,利拉德或许比科比更好。

[–]Raptors austine567 66 points 7 hours ago*

How do you figure?

Dame - 4 Time All NBA (1x 1st, 2x 2nd, 1x 3rd), 4 Time All Star, RotY. 7x Player of the week, 7x Rookie of the Month. 23.5/4.2/6.3 on .434/.368/.889

Kobe - 4 Time All NBA (All 1st Team), 3 Time All-Defensive (2x 1st, 1x 2nd), 7 Time All Star, 9x Player of the Week, 4x Player of the Month, 1 Finals MVP, 1 Championship, 1 All Star Game MVP. 24.7/5.1/4.8 on .431/.309/.829

I don't think he had a better decade.

猛龙球迷:那你是怎么看出来的?

利拉德:4次赛季最佳阵(1次一阵、2次二阵、1次三阵),四次全明星,年度最佳新秀,7次周最佳,7次月度最佳新秀,场均23.5+4.2+6.3,三项命中率分别为43.4%、36.8%、88.9%;

科比:四次赛季最佳阵(全是一阵),三次赛季最佳防守阵(2次一阵,1次二阵),7次全明星,9次周最佳,4次月最佳,1次总决赛MVP,1个冠军,1次全明星MVP,场均24.7+5.1+4.8,三项命中率分别为43.%、30.9%和82.9%。

我可不认为他这十年比科比厉害。

[–]Bulls lilmaldo 4 points 2 hours ago

Using all star selections for this argument is a joke. Kobe was getting voted as a starter even when he was out for the season and when it was clear it was his last season. Essentially, he was making the all star team off popularity alone. Damian on the other hand was notably snubbed 2 years.

公牛球迷:你拿全明星入选次数来争辩就是个笑话。科比即便赛季不打也能被选进首发,他单凭人气就能入全明星。而利拉德呢,有两次就是被冷落了。

[–]Starksgoon 26 points 7 hours ago

You gotta take into account Lillard had more seasons. Lillard barely missed games in his 7 seasons. Kobe missed around 2 seasons in his 6 seasons for the decade and still got the both all stars. Meanwhile, Lillard was averaging 27 ppg and didn’t even make all nba or all star. Lillard definitely had the better decade.

你得这么看,利拉德打的赛季更多啊。他进入联盟7个赛季基本没缺席多少比赛,科比这十年打了6个赛季,差不多休战了两个赛季,还都进了全明星。与此同时,场均27分的利拉德甚至没进赛季最佳阵和全明星。就这十年来说,肯定利拉德更强。

[–][GSW] Kevin Durant ThenVariety 238 points 9 hours ago

Kobe and Wade are weird but I can’t immediately think of someone to replace them. As for Giannis, even Rose has an arguably better decade.

勇士球迷:科比和韦德入选有点奇怪,可是我又不能立马想出谁能替代他们。至于说字母哥,就连罗斯的十年都比他更强吧。

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[–][MIA] Jason Williams WhoopingKing 700 points 8 hours ago

kahwi has no business being 1st team

热火球迷:小卡与近十年的一阵没任何关系吧

[–]Rockets rfreho 132 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, doesn’t make any sense

火箭球迷:是的,完全说不过去

[–]dogfoodlid 57 points 7 hours ago

Who else had two or more Finals mvps in the decade?

I also was surprised

那还有谁在这十年赢得过至少两个FMVP呢?

我也有点奇怪。

[–]Rockets rfreho 119 points 7 hours ago

Dude’s only been averaging over 20 for the last 3-4 years, also one can argue he didn’t deserve the first fmvp.

I can’t think of anyone specific but there have been better player this DECADE.

火箭球迷:小卡的场均得分只有过去三四个赛季是破20的,而且有人还能说他配不上第一个FMVP。

我想不出其他具体的替代人选,可是就这十年来说,有比他更强的。

[–]Rockets byRockets 24 points 7 hours ago

First FMVP he was a role player, bunch of spurs players deserved it too.

Second FMVP he got lucky bc golden state lost everyone

火箭球迷:他拿第一个FMVP时还是角色球员,当时有不少马刺球员也有那个资格拿。

第二个FMVP他是走运,因为勇士缺兵少将。

[–]Clippers SlyHoooper 69 points 7 hours ago

The 2014 chip was a great team effort but he absolutely deserved fmvp cmon

快船球迷:14年的冠军是马刺团队的努力,可是小卡绝对该拿FMVP,行了。

[–]En_lighten 39 points 5 hours ago

Westbrook was better this decade, I think.

我觉得这十年的威少比他更强。

[–]Raptors howdopearethedrops 41 points 6 hours ago

If it was 2015-2019 he's absolutely first team, but he didn't really do much in the first half of the decade outside of Finals MVP in 2014, which he really only got because of a 3 game hot streak to end the series.

猛龙球迷:要是单说15到19年,那小卡绝对的一阵。可是他在近十年的头五年,除了14年的FMVP(就这还是因为他连着三场爆种终结系列赛),还真没多少表现。

[–]Spurs Very-Original 24 points 5 hours ago

He’s not first team during that time. Dude didn’t even play one entire season during that span.

马刺球迷:那时候他不在主力阵容里。他那段时期甚至都不能打满整个赛季。

[–]bobbycurls 185 points 10 hours ago

I think Kawhi is a better player than Westbrook, but if we are talking all-decade team, I got Curry, Russ, Harden, LBJ, KD for my first team.

我觉得小卡现在比威少强,可要是咱们说十年最佳阵的话,我选库里、威少、哈登、杜兰特和詹姆斯。

[–]Raptors lifecantgetyouhigh 227 points 9 hours ago

People acting like Kawhi has been a 2 way KD his whole career.

猛龙球迷:很多人以为小卡一直都是攻防一体的KD。

[–]Bein_true 77 points 8 hours ago

Or like he is now...

难道他现在就是攻防一体的KD了??

[–]Lakers AmnestyTHAT 65 points 8 hours ago

Kawhi went from being underrated to being overrated in one season. If you compare the regular seasons most of those players have had for years, he is wayy behind.

湖人球迷:就一个赛季,小卡从被低估到了被高估。要是你拿常规赛来说的话,很多球员都打得好,小卡差远了。

[–]Lakers The_NA_Deft 38 points 8 hours ago

I personally don't think Kawhi is a top 5 player of this decade. Yes, he has two rings and two Finals MVP's, but that 1st ring and FMVP could have been won by any other player on this list if you replaced Kawhi with that player on the 2014 Spurs. On top of that, he has 3 All-NBA selections during this time period, which is tied for the lowest during this time period. I personally think Westbrook or CP3 deserve the 1st team selection because of how elite they've been this entire decade and not just the second half

湖人球迷:我个人真不觉得小卡是这十年的前五。是,他拿了两个戒指两个FMVP,可第一个FMVP,你要是换个人,在2014年的马刺队里也是能拿。此外呢,他近十年三次进入赛季最佳阵,这是前五里最低的。我觉得威少或保罗应该入十年一阵,因为他们这十年一直都很出色,而不只是后五年。

[–]Supersonics xRyuzakii 42 points 8 hours ago

I don’t see how Russ doesn’t get in the first team... he has been a monster since his first season in the league. He might not be better than kawhi or James now but has definitely been good for far longer

超音速球迷:我搞不懂为啥威少没进十年一阵……他从进联盟起就很猛,也许他现在不如小卡和老詹,可是他稳定发挥高水准的时间肯定长的多。

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