【键盘侠】纳什连续八年180俱乐部|他应该是史上第二进攻型控卫?

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Steve Nash averaged shooting splits of51/44/91 from the year 2004 to the year 2012

 

史蒂夫-纳什从2004年到2012年场均投篮命中率为51%/44%/91%。

Unreal efficiency to look at, probably theonly guy to really be as efficient with the ball in his hands compared toCurry. All while averaging 16/3/11. Those assist numbers cannot be slept on.

 

现在看起来这个效率简直不可思议啊,这样的效率现在估计也只有库里能一较高下吧,而且他场均还能拿到16+3+11的数据,这些助攻数据也不是看着玩玩儿的。

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[–]j_skiddles 1278 指標 9 天前

The Phoenix Suns went from 29 wins to WCFunder Nash's first season. He was so good at leading a teams offense that Idont even think the stats showed it properly. He would always make the rightplay every single time down the court.

纳什来太阳的第一个赛季球队就从上赛季的29胜打到了西部决赛,他非常擅长于领导球队的进攻,我甚至觉得这些数据也不能完全展示他的水平,在球场上的每一个回合他都能做出正确的选择。

[–][TOR] Pops Mensah-BonsuSaprano44 568 指標 9 天前

The season they went 29 wins they startedthe year off with Marbury, Marion, Johnson, Stoudemire, Hardaway.

The next season they got Nash and QuentinRichardson and then win 62 games. A lot of people tried to credit this to Statgetting better, but he was injured the next season and the Suns still won 54games and made it to the WCF.

猛龙球迷:他们拿29胜那年的首发是:马布里、马里昂、乔-约翰逊、斯塔德迈尔、哈达威。

下个赛季他们得到了纳什和昆汀-理查德森,然后他们赢了62场,很多人把功劳归功于纳什,但实际上他下个赛季受伤了太阳还是赢了54场并且杀到了西部决赛。

[–]BucksiFinesseThePlug 338 指標 9 天前

We should give some credit to Mike D'Antonitoo. Took over as interim coach in 2004, then implemented his own system in theoffseason before 2005.

雄鹿球迷:我们同样要把功劳归功于德安东尼,2004年的他作为助理教练临时接过帅印,接过在2005年之前就在季后赛里彻底完成体系大成。

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[–]MagicSamURLJackson 84 指標 9 天前*

The team traded Marbury halfway through theprevious season as well, relying on Barbosa at point (I think Barbosa's rookieyear) so I've always thought that must've helped Marion and Stoudemire developas well, with Marbury and his shot totals out of the way and able to befeatured more offensively. Stoudemire was still very raw at the time but Ithink I remember him flourishing post-Marbury, which was very encouraging. Soyou have these two young guys who have had half of a season to be featured more,then an offseason to work on what they figured was needed based on thatexperience, and then they get this all-time great point guard to set them allup perfectly

I remember being kind of skeptical of thatsigning at the time and I feel like such a fool. With hindsight, Nash andStoudemire was the perfect pairing. It wasn't like I or anyone else doubtedthat Nash was great. The contract just seemed long and Nash's back was aproblem in Dallas. Hardly anyone could've predicted that Steve would have a physicalrenaissance and in an offense perfectly suited for him.

魔术球迷:这支球队在上个赛季中途就交易走了马布里,他们当时靠着巴博萨打首发控卫(我记得那年巴博萨还是个新秀),所以我觉得他们应该是帮助马里昂和斯塔德迈尔成长了,小斯尽管当时还是很粗糙但是我记得他在马布里走之后的表现非常出色,这是令人非常欢欣鼓舞的事情。所以有两个潜力无限的年轻人能在摆烂的那半个赛季里自由发挥,然后在休赛期根据自己的需求去查补漏缺,随后来了一个适合他们的控卫,一切都是水到渠成的。

我还记得当时我很质疑这笔签约,现在看来我就是个傻蛋。事后看来,纳什和小斯简直天作之合,当然我当时质疑签约并不是怀疑纳什的强大,毕竟合约太长而且纳什的背在小牛就是一个问题,所以很难去预测纳什能在太阳迎来重生,而且会有一个如此适合他的体系。

[–]BullsMaster3NIGM4 48 指標 9 天前

Man I loved watching the suns during thistime. I rooted for them so damn hard every time in the post season. Nash isstill probably my favorite point guard. Liable on defense but he definitelygave full effort. They were much like bulls later on. Probably could have won achip had they not been plagued with injuries to their core and losing JJ to theHawks.

公牛球迷:兄弟当时我太爱太阳了,季后赛的每一场比赛我都支持他们,纳什可能是我最喜欢的控球后卫,尽管防守一般但是他也尽全力,他们当时就像之后的公牛,如果他们没有伤病或者约翰逊没去老鹰,或许他们能赢一个总冠军。

[–][LAL] Pau GasolRunDatTriangle 113 指標 9 天前

And that's why I will always defend hisfirst MVP. 100% earned.

湖人球迷:这就是为什么我一直支持纳什的第一个MVP,100%他是值得这个MVP的。

[–]AamaraSimons 45 指標 9 天前

It was pretty bogus for the TNT guys tolabel him the worst MVP and soley trashed him only looking at his stats. Iremember anytime nash was playing on NBA league pass back in 2005 was mustwatch. His teams would put up 120s back when other teams were still grindingout games in the 80s.

对于TNT的那帮人来说,给纳什贴上最差MVP的标签毫无疑问是虚假的,他们估计只看了纳什的数据,我记得纳什在2005年的比赛估计是每一个NBA球迷都会看的,当时NBA每支球队场均都得80多分,但是太阳的比赛每场球都得120多分。

[–]W1NSL0W 326 指標 9天前

People forget that he also had a chronicback problem that impaired him throughout his career. One of the toughest MFersout there.

人们估计还忘了背部伤病一直纠缠着他的职业生涯,他可能是最难的职业选手了。

[–]RaptorsIanicRR 134 指標 9 天前*

Also take a look at his team’s offensiveratings from like 2002 to 2012 relative the rest of the league.

I firmly believe Nash is the second bestoffensive shot creating (y'all right, Steph is hard to argue against) pointguard of all time (there’s no touching Magic). His defence really holds himback from top 5 overall but there weren’t many players who could conduct anoffense like he did.

I'm a Raptors fan first and foremost but Iwas in 10th grade when Nash won his first MVP. I watched probably as much SSOLSuns as I did my own Raptors. That dude was our national hero. He was sofantastic to watch because he had no fear. Throw a bad turnover on onepossession? Doesn't matter, he's still gonna throw a crazy pass through threedefenders on the next possession if he thinks that's the best option to score.I dreamed of playing like him and I got benched more than a few times in highschool for throwing some needlessly flashy passes to teammates who weren'texpecting them or my pass just sailed out of bounds. No regrets baby.

猛龙球迷:实际上你们可以看一看2002-2012他所在球队的进攻得分,记得和联盟其他球队比一比。

我确信纳什是历史上第二好的进攻型控球后卫(确实,很难推翻库里是历史第一的事实),当然我说得是一直打控球后卫的球员,魔术师也可以排除了。他的防守让他的整体排名会往后降,但是仍然没有很多球员能像他一样运转球队的进攻。

我是猛龙的球迷但是当纳什赢得他的第一个MVP时我才高一,当时我看太阳的球和我现在看猛龙的球一样多,纳什就是我们国家的英雄,因为他的无所畏惧让他打起球来是如此的梦幻。某个回合出现糟糕失误?没关系,如果他觉得这是一个很棒的得分机会的话,下一个回合他依然能从三个防守队员之间传出一个不可思议的传球。我高中曾经梦想想做一个他这样的球员,甚至为此被教练惩罚坐过很多次板凳,或者是这些传球就直接出界了,但是我从来没为此后悔过。

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[–]-Buckaroo_Banzai- 252 指標 9 天前

And the Mavs let him walk..

..yeah still not over it.

雄鹿球迷:

独行侠当年还是放走了他……

……是的我并没有对此释怀。

[–]Pistonshammerandnailz 102 指標 9 天前

If he was playing now he’d be shooting morethan twice as many threes. Probably could average 25+ in today’s environment.

活塞球迷:如果纳什生在当下或许他会投当年两倍那么多的三分,可能在如今的环境下他场均能得到25分以上。

[–]Spursmuktheduck 83 指標 9 天前

He probably could've averaged 25 in thatenvironment too, if he chucked as many shots as the other stars of the era.

The suns winning percentage was lower themore Nash scored over assisted, even on similar efficiencies. His assists ledto such efficient shots that there were even more valuable than a 50/40/90line. Nash openly acknowledged that stat and said it pushed him to play a veryheavy pass first style

马刺球迷:老实说如果他像其他球星一样出手在当年那个环境下他场均也能得到25分以上。

即使效率相同,纳什得分越高太阳赢球概率也是越低,他的助攻能引导更有效率的进攻,这远比180俱乐部要有价值,纳什曾经公开表示过数据也促使他有了传球第一的打球风格。

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[–][DET] ChaunceyBillupsSittingOnA_Cornflake 35 指標 9 天前

A shame those Suns teams never won a title.I hope people don’t forget about them.

活塞球迷:这样的太阳没拿到总冠军是一种耻辱,我希望人们能够永远记住这件事情。

[–]Lakersyuhanz 45 指標 9 天前

Fuck Horry

湖人球迷:去特喵的霍里。

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryantiamnotkobe 22 指標 9 天前

Nash was a two times all star when heplayed for Mavs, after Cuban let him walked when he reached 30 yo, he proceedto become 6 times all star while winning 2 MVPs in a row,

Cuban should've keep him

湖人球迷:当纳什为独行侠征战的时候,他只进过两次全明星,库班放他去太阳的时候他已经过了30岁,然后他进了6次全明星并且连续两次拿到MVP。

库班本应该留下他的。

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