【键盘侠】利文斯顿宣布退役|涅槃重生后的真勇士!

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【键盘侠】利文斯顿宣布退役|涅槃重生后的真勇士!

Shaun Livingston is retiring.

肖恩-利文斯顿将正式退役。

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[–][OKC] Eric Maynor Ibaka_flocka 3423 指標 12小時前

Dude had an amazing second chance and took advantage of it. Great career

雷霆球迷:这老哥职业生涯的第二次转机很棒,他抓住了这次机会。很出色的职业生涯。

[–]Warriors HappyCrabDay 989 指標 10小時前

He will never live down the injury. Almost every interviewer he talks with mentions it, lol.

勇士球迷:他永远不会让人忘记那次伤病。基本每个采访他的媒体人都会提到这个,哈哈哈哈

[–]Warriors climaxingwalrus 990 指標 9小時前

Cause it was one of the worst injuries in the history of the nba

勇士球迷:因为那是NBA史上最为严重的伤势之一。

[–]Pistons ATrueFreakUp 93 指標 7小時前

As far as damage done I think it's probably up there as one of the worst injuries in pro sports history, at least American pro sports (excluding combat sports).

活塞球迷:就身体受损程度而言,我觉得利文斯顿那次受伤或许是职业体育史上最为恶劣的伤病之一,至少能在美国职业体育(包括格斗项目)史上排的上号吧。

[–][CHI] Derrick Rose jeric13xd 337 指標 12小時前

Easily the worst knee injury Ive seen in basketball. Happy Sdot was able to find a home and win 3 chips.

His postup turn around jumper was unstoppable before it got nerfed last season

公牛球迷:他那明显就是我看篮球以来最惨的膝伤。幸亏他找到了归属拿了三个关键。

在上赛季状态下滑之前,他的低位背打翻身跳投简直是无解。

[–]Raptors BEE_REAL_ 239 指標 12小時前

Easily the worst knee injury Ive seen in basketball

My aunt is a sports physician, and she told me the Livingston's is the worst sports knee injury on film.

猛龙球迷:“他那明显就是我看篮球以来最惨的膝伤”

我姑妈是个体育医师,她跟我说,利文斯顿那次是体育史上有视频记录的最严重的膝伤。

[–]kathmandontandwont 81 指標 8小時前

Yeah, but it's about how he overcame his injury, not how it ruined him. It's not that he will never live it down, it's that he overcame seemingly insurmountable physical odds

没错,不过重点在于他怎么走出伤病的,而不是那次伤病对他造成的摧毁。重点不在于他永远不会忘记那次重伤,而是他克服了那肉眼可见的常人无法无法逾越的身体障碍。

[–]Black frier 38 指標 8小時前

I mean they were considering amputating his leg

我记得,当时医生一度考虑给他截肢吧。

[–]alltheseUNs 12 指標 7小時前*

I’m a younger fan idek what ‘the injury’ is imma go look it up.

Edit: Jfc that’s terrible

我看球时间不长,不知道他的那次伤病,我得去查查。

编辑:我尼玛,那太吓人了吧

[–]NBA thepatientoffret 46 指標 12小時前

I never saw it and now I'm a bit curious.

我一直都没看过,现在我倒有点好奇了。

[–]Thunder GorillaX 11 指標 6小時前

DON'T WATCH IT. I can watch mother fuckers get beheaded by the cartel all day long, but Shaun Livingston's knee injury is too much for me.

雷霆球迷:不!要!看!那些恐怖组织的斩首视频我可以看一整天,但是利文斯顿膝盖受伤的画面我扛不住。

[–]Warriors cyama 29 指標 11小時前

He tore 3 out of 4 of his ligaments in his knee. He tore his ACL, MCL and PCL.

勇士球迷:他当时膝盖的四根主要韧带有三根撕裂了。前十字韧带、内侧副韧带和后交叉韧带全都撕裂了。

[–]NBA thepatientoffret 24 指標 11小時前

It's really amazing coming from that nightmare and win 3 rings.

能从这种噩梦中走出来还拿到3个冠军戒指,这是真的了不起。

[–]Celtics Brad-Stevens 1970 指標 12小時前

His comeback was inspirational

From almost having to amputate ... to bouncing around team to team

To backing up an all time great and being 1 of 5 guys to be on one of the greatest dynasties from start to finish

他的重生故事是非常励志的。

从一度面临被截肢……到四处漂泊

再到给一位历史顶尖球员打替补,那支史上最伟大王朝球队之一从开始到结束,有五个人经历了这个过程,他就是其中之一。

[–]TheBurner4567 107 指標 12小時前

Warriors dynasty may not be over.

勇士王朝或许还没结束哦。

[–]Raptors milkman163 77 指標 11小時前

Count me in on this comment. They could have all 3 by the playoffs, and those 3 could be enough.

猛龙球迷:我也是这个观点。等到了季后赛,他们那三个核心或许都能打,有这三个就够了。

[–]Un_cs 64 指標 11小時前

3... Plus dlo. Could be fucking scary

那三个……再加上拉塞尔。这怕是很特么吓人啊。

[–]76ers Hesi_Pull-up_Timbo 21 指標 11小時前

It's not gonna be as good this season but they'll be a contender until one of their core 3 leaves

76人球迷:或许新赛季他们还比不上以前,不过在三人核心中的一人离队之前,他们依然能争冠。

[–]Heat Dwyanespellsitright 44 指標 11小時前

Im gonna be honest as long as you have Steph Curry to build around, you’re a contender

热火球迷:只有勇士能围绕库里打造球队,说实话,他们还能争冠。

[–]Trail Blazers DingleberryDiorama 29 指標 11小時前

Looking forward to the Lakers, Clips and GS being great this year. Looking forward to this season big time.

开拓者球迷:期待着新赛季湖人、快船和勇士的齐头并进。

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant tatancool 25 指標 11小時前

Easily the most hyped offseason since I've been watching. And I think we have Kawhi to thank for. If he came to the Lakers, league fucked, easily 20 of 30 teams in rebuild mode, and a lot of bad shit. Now I really think the west is wide open and is going to be a blood bath. Can't be mad with that.

湖人球迷:自我看球以来,这个夏天显然就是最过瘾的休赛期了。而且我觉得我们得感谢小卡。要是他来了我湖,那联盟就完犊子了,30支球队里有20支要进入重建模式。现在我真觉得西部的格局很开放,前方是一条血路。这还有啥不爽的呢。

[–]Rockets thekarmagiver 600 指標 12小時前

Am not the biggest Warriors fan but after that injury, I've always been rooting for Livingston. Such a great come back.

火箭球迷:我可不是勇士铁粉啊,不过自打利文斯顿重伤过后,我就一直支持着他。他的复苏实在是太经典了。

[–]Knicks AkirraKrylon 279 指標 11小時前

Livingston may not have been even the 5th most important piece to the recent Warriors run but I feel like he was the most underappreciated piece of that dynasty. His presence is going to be sorely missed.

尼克斯球迷:利文斯顿或许还算不上近些年勇士争冠的拼图里重要性排在第五的球员,可是我觉得那是那支王朝球队里最被大家忽视的。他离开之后,大家会非常想念他的存在感。

[–][HOU] John Lucas III DrSmotPoker 7 指標 9小時前*

If you don’t count KD (since he was only there for 3/5 finals runs and 2/3 champs) Livingston is a top 5 player for this run, and if you do he’s still clearly number 6.

火箭球迷:要是你说勇士这些年一波推的时候不算杜兰特(毕竟他这五年只待了三年,而且三个冠军他只拿了两个),那利文斯顿在这支勇士的地位就是前五的。如果算上杜兰特,那很显然,他能排到第六。

[–]photocist 33 指標 10小時前

to warriors fans, he is not underappreciated. but to everyone else, probably. absolute money from the midrange, unstoppable turn around fade with the smaller guy on him. him and iggy were quick enough to run the floor for cutting dunks and could also handle the point and make a smart pass. a key part of the championship rotation.

对于勇蜜来说,利文斯顿并没被忽视。不过对于其他人来说,或许是这样。他的中投怎么投怎么有,面对小个球员时的翻身后仰也是无解。下快攻的时候,他和一哥可以迅速完成顺下暴扣,而且他还能送出秒传。他是那套冠军轮换中的关键一员。

[–]Warriors HailOfThorns 185 指標 11小時前

The length he gave us on defense and that reliable mid range, I miss him already

勇士球迷:他在防守时的身高优势,还有那一手靠谱的中投,我已经开始想他了。

[–]Thunder Ssumday_is_love 106 指標 11小時前

His midrange in 2015 was so good, especially in the finals

What a great story, great guy with a really good personality.

雷霆球迷:他在2014/15赛季的中投太厉害了,特别是在总决赛里。

他的故事太经典了,这是个品性纯良的大好人。

[–]Rockets Daroo425 84 指標 11小時前

Does he miss a turnaround from 8-10 feet? I don’t think I’ve ever seen it. Dude constantly killed us

火箭球迷:他在8到10英尺外的翻身跳投有失手过吗?我好像没见他投丢过啊。这老哥老是虐我们。

[–]Warriors vincere925 19 指標 11小時前

Went a little downhill last season, but man it was beautiful to watch.

勇士球迷:上赛季这个技能还是有点下滑的,不过动作还是美如画。

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[–]Hawks CameronReddish 4068 指標 12小時前

Fantastic career and one of the greatest sports comebacks of all time.

老鹰球迷:精彩的职业生涯,体育史上最伟大的重生佳话之一。

[–]Raptors fax-me-some-halibut 31 指標 12小時前

and one of the greatest sports comebacks of all time.

Right up there with Lebron's hairline

猛龙球迷:“体育史上最伟大的重生佳话之一”

就像老詹的发际线一样。

[–]Fruity Snacksss 15 指標 12小時前

It sure was. I remembering that injury and Jesus Christ. Everyone and himself bet his career was completely over.

利文斯顿这绝对没毛病。我还记得他那次伤病,我的天呐,当时包括他自己在内的每个人都觉得他的职业生涯彻底完蛋了。

[–]West vapianonuts24 1664 指標 12小時前

People seem to forget what a great athletic player he was before his injury. After coming back, he developed a near automatic mid range jumper.

So happy he got to win a few rings have such a gruesome injury

貌似很多人都忘了受伤前的利文斯顿是个运动能力多么出色的球员。在伤愈回归后,他练出了一手近乎无解的中距离跳投。

很高兴他在遭遇了这么可怕的重伤之后还能拿到几个冠军戒指。

[–]Trail Blazers DingleberryDiorama 41 指標 11小時前

Shows you how good he possibly could have been. Potential HOFer in my opinion. He sure turned out to have the mental fortitude.

开拓者球迷:这反而说明了没伤的他没准会非常厉害。我觉得可能会进入名人堂。他的意志力肯定是相当坚韧的。

[–]Celtics supes1 41 指標 9小時前

Definitely had mental fortitude, but I don't think he would have sniffed the HOF even staying healthy. Remember, his major injury wasn't until his third season. He was just an average rotation player at the time he went down.

That doesn't take anything away from what he accomplished obviously. Even making it back to the NBA is impressive, and he made it back and had a really solid career.

凯尔特人球迷:你说他意志力顽强这是肯定的,可我觉得,即便他一直都健康,也与名人堂沾不上边。要知道,他的那次重伤是在进入NBA的第三个赛季出现的。在他受伤之前,也只是一个普通轮换球员。

不过这并不能让他的成就失色分毫。哪怕只是重返NBA赛场就已经很难得了,而且不但回来了,而且还打出了一个很犀利的职业生涯。

[–][UTA] Bernard King DeathBySuplex 17 指標 9小時前

John Stockton was a bench player until his third season.

爵士球迷:斯托克顿在职业生涯第三个赛季也只是个板凳球员啊。

[–]Celtics supes1 26 指標 9小時前

Stockton also played 82 games each of his first three seasons and put up better stats than Shaun. But yeah, obviously players usually continue to improve after their third season... my point was mostly that I don't believe he showed HOF potential early in his career.

I saw him as more of a fringe all-star if things panned out well.

凯尔特人球迷:可是斯托克顿生涯头三个赛季都打满了82场比赛,而且他的数据也比利文斯顿强啊。不过也对,很多球员过了第三个赛季之后一般都会持续进步……我的主要观点是,我不觉得利文斯顿在职业生涯初期展现出了名人堂级别的潜力。

我觉得如果一切顺利的话,他更可能会是一个边缘全明星球员。

[–]Knicks ForgetHype 104 指標 11小時前

I don't think it's people forgetting, it's more that people just never knew how good he was before his injury. It happened more than 12 years ago which means a ton of people have started watching the NBA since then.

尼克斯球迷:我觉得不是大家忘了他以前有多强,而是大家压根就不知道他受伤前有多厉害。他重伤都是12年前的事了,也就是说,很多人是从那会儿才开始看NBA的。

[–]Warriors ButObviously 88 指標 9小時前

I think pre-injury Livingston is getting overrated. He was a really exciting talent, but he got injured before he developed into the player that he could've been. I don't want to diminish the fact that a lot of people thought he was going to become something special, and he had so much crazy athleticism/size for the position. But he wasn't some sort of all-star type player when he got injured.

勇士球迷:我觉得伤前的利文斯顿被高估了,他的天赋确实让人很兴奋,不过他还没成长为应有的样子就受伤了。很多人觉得打控卫的他运动天赋爆表、身高又突出,能够成为联盟的大人物,我不想泼冷水。可哪怕是他受伤的时候,也不是那种全明星类型的球员啊。

[–]Spurs ec2xs 27 指標 8小時前

I agree. He wasn’t anything too special before his injury, but an exciting prospect. He still needed a fair amount of development before proving himself as a starter in the league. Pretty analogous to Dejounte Murray.

马刺球迷:我同意。在他受伤前,他还真没那么特殊,只是个有希望的潜力股而已。他当时还需要大量的打磨,才能证明自己具备在联盟里打首发的实力。和现在的德章泰-穆雷很像。

[–]Wizards white_light-king 720 指標 11小時前

his mental game in the GSW years was so strong to go with that mid-range. He was always doing the stuff he was good at and making smart plays.

奇才球迷:他后来在勇士那些年的精神力实在是太强了,还有那一手中投。他总能发挥自己的长处,打得很聪明。

[–][OKC] Steven Adams basketballandpuppies 151 指標 7小時前

Dude just seemed to make the right play at the right time when they needed him to.

雷霆球迷:貌似只要勇士需要的时候,他总能在正确的时间做出正确的选择。

[–]myuseless2ndaccount 25 指標 7小時前

Just this year his no look Pass to Iggy for the game winning 3 in this years finals was insane.

就像今年总决赛他不看人传球给一哥的那个绝杀三分,太牛了。

[–]Toeknee99 300 指標 10小時前

Absolutely vital to the GSW run. They could always rely on him to get like 6-8 points off the bench. Every time he pulled up from 15-20 ft, I knew it would go in.

他在勇士这几年的作用绝对是很关键的。勇士总能指着他替补上场拿个6到8分。他每次在15到20英尺外出手,我就觉得这球有了。

[–]Grizzlies jbrooks772 76 指標 10小時前

Shaun almost never pulls up for deep 2's, he shoots from 10-15 out.

灰熊球迷:利文斯顿几乎不投长两分,他都是在10到15英尺的位置出手。

[–]HesiPulloutJimmer[ ] 193 指標 10小時前

Those 6-8 points usually came in at very timely moments esp. in the playoffs. A couple backdoor cuts, couple from midrange, all the while usually making the right play. Will miss him for sure.

他得的那6到8分一半都是很及时的,特别是在季后赛里。几次溜底线空切,再加几次中距离,而且打得都很合理。勇士肯定会想他的。

[–]salmans13 28 指標 7小時前

Their bench is what made GSW hard to beat before DURANT joined them.

在杜兰特加盟之前,勇士的板凳实力是他们难有敌手的主因。

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[–]Celtics AceCheese11 626 指標 12小時前

Incredible turn around to his career after such a devastating injury

凯尔特人球迷:遭遇这么一次毁灭性的伤病之后,他的生涯重生真的是了不起。

[–][TOR] Norman Powell RookieAndTheVet 321 指標 12小時前

Incredible turnaround jumper, too.

开拓者球迷:还有他的翻身跳投。

[–]Knicks CameramanToe 459 指標 12小時前

This mans midrange jumper was literally automatic in some of those finals

尼克斯球迷:在有些总决赛场次里,他的中距离跳投真的是没丢过。

[–]sriracha82 219 指標 11小時前

He literally shot 18/22 or something crazy in the 18 finals lmao

18年总决赛里他22中18啊,哈哈哈

[–]Warriors 0hootsson 15 指標 6小時前

Tons of wide open dunks/oops on backdoor cuts too. He moved so well within the offense that most of the shots he took were wide open

勇士球迷:还有很多溜底线空切之后的空位暴扣。他在进攻时的跑动很聪明,所以才有了很多空位出手的机会。

[–][CLE] Zydrunas Ilgauskas Vargolol 10 指標 8小時前

Because he was a tall PG that could pass as well as he could shoot the midrange. We always had to stick someone so fucking short on him and he'd just shoot over them like he was wide open, and if we doubled it was always an easy dunk

I hated seeing him come in against our secondary

骑士球迷:因为他是个高个空位,既能传球,又有中距离。所以我们老是得派个小个子盯着他,那他干脆直接拔起就投了,就像身前是空位一样。要是我们包夹吧,少不了被对方轻松扣篮。我很讨厌看到他上来打我们的第二阵容。

[–]Bulls mrpoopybutthole551 18 指標 9小時前

He was that guy who stepped up in so many games whenever the warriors just needed to add those quiet points. Whenever a smaller guard would switch onto him u knew his shot was going in.

公牛球迷:只要勇士需要得分止渴的时候,他很多时候都能站出来。只要身前的换防是个子相对较小的后卫,那你就知道,他这球有了。

[–]Warriors guesting 10 指標 12小時前*

i like these athletes who have one great skill, you know it's coming, and dare you to do something about it.

勇士球迷:有些运动员就是一招鲜,你知道他要这么干,可是你还是没办法。

[–][BOS] Jaylen Brown Ye_Biz 81 指標 12小時前*

And amazing athleticism before his gruesome leg injury, probably could’ve been a couple time all star

凯尔特人球迷:腿伤之前他的运动天赋还是很好的,没伤的话估计能进几次全明星。

[–][TOR] Norman Powell RookieAndTheVet 76 指標 12小時前

He still had flashes of it, even with his busted knee. On that play where he cooked Harden in the WCF.

猛龙球迷:即便是拖着报废的膝盖,你也能看到他的一些风采。他不是在西决戏耍过哈登嘛。

[–]Pelicans why_pelicans_why 43 指標 12小時前

And his dunk over RJ in the 2016 finals

鹈鹕球迷:还有2016年总决赛对杰弗森的劈扣。

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[–][SAS] Derrick White fourpinz8 429 指標 12小時前

A fucking warrior. Devastating injury, only to come back and win some rings. A dream outcome

马刺球迷:真特么勇士啊。毁灭性重伤,复出之后还能拿冠军。梦幻结局。

[–]fronklehaus 219 指標 12小時前

He was indeed a warrior

他还确实是个勇士。

[–]ElPabloFreshcobar 97 指標 12小時前

And also a Clipper, Heat, Thunder, Wizard, a Bobcat, a Buck, a Net, and a Cavalier! Definitely a warrior, though.

也在快船、热火、雷霆、奇才、山猫、雄鹿、篮网和骑士待过!

[–][DET] Ben Wallace johnazoidberg- 107 指標 12小時前

The man was never supposed to be able to walk again and he played another 10 years . Nothing but the utmost respect for him. Enjoy retirement, Shaun, and thanks for showing us what's possible

活塞球迷:这个男人本来连路都走不了,可还是接着又在联盟打了10年。对他致以崇高敬意。享受退役生活吧,肖恩,感谢你向我们展示了另一种可能。

[–]Nets BasedGodProdigy 19 指標 13小時前

Always rooted for him after he revitalized his career in BKN. I remember wanting him back so badly.

篮网球迷:他在布鲁克林打出感觉后我就一直支持他,记得之前还很希望他能回来。

[–]trelium06 201 指標 10小時前

I wish Shaun Livingston knew he is my hero.

I gave up on myself because of knee problems. Then I heard about what he went through. Looked it up. I was amazed, he’s inspiring.

Since then I’ve rebuilt the muscles around my knees and can run a mile under 11 minutes for the first time in at least 10 years. Still always in pain, but I work through it now. I’m not afraid anymore.

Thanks Shaun!

希望利文斯顿能知道,他是我的英雄。

由于膝盖问题,我一度放弃了自己。然后我听闻了他的经历,去了解之后,我震惊了,他的故事很励志。

自那之后我开始重塑膝盖周围的肌肉,10多年里首次能够花不到11分钟的时间跑完一里路。现在还是会痛,但是我也在努力。我不再害怕了。

感谢肖恩!

[–][POR] Damian Lillard greatestbird 42 指標 9小時前

That’s fucking awesome dude, congratulations on making hella strides.

That being said he’s not dead, you could always like @ him on Twitter or something

开拓者球迷:老铁,你这也太特么厉害了吧。祝贺你向前迈出了那么多。

不过话说回来,利文斯顿又没死,你可以去推特艾特他啊。

[–]Warriors juniSMASH 201 指標 12小時前

It's pretty crazy if you just look at Livingston's stats, he'd seem just like a mediocre player. But whenever he was in there was this sense of control, reliability, and leadership that you can't show on a box score.

It was even more apparent how much we needed him when his skills started decline last year; the feeling of "you never knew what was missing until it was gone". But even then, he came out with some big shots in the Rocket series and the finals when everyone, including myself, was worried about him just being in the game. it was undeniable how important he was to the Warriors. He'll be forever loved and respected!

勇士球迷:要是你单看利文斯顿的数据吧,你会觉得他好像很平庸。可是只要他在场上,你就会觉得很稳很可靠,那种控制力和领导才能是不能通过数据栏呈现出来的。

更加显著的是,当他上赛季技术开始下滑时,反而凸显了他对我们的重要性,就有种“失去了才知道珍惜”的感觉。即便是这样,他在局面不稳的时候,还是能有大心脏进球。他对勇士的重要性之大是不可否认的,我们会永远喜欢和尊敬他。

[–]Rockets moreyball 21 指標 11小時前

In every single series against you guys the last 4 years I hated when Livingston was in the game. Dudes midrange turnaround or spot up was just a guaranteed 2 every single time. Plus the dude was long and hustled, it drove me insane.

火箭球迷:过去四年每次和你们打系列赛,我就很讨厌看到利文斯顿上场。这哥们儿每次中距离翻身投篮或者是定点出手就是妥妥的两分。而且他身高臂长又肯卖力,都快把我逼疯了。

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