【键盘侠】西亚卡姆寻求顶薪|顶薪满天飞 他当之无愧?

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【键盘侠】西亚卡姆寻求顶薪|顶薪满天飞 他当之无愧?

[Charania] Raptors rising star Pascal Siakam is seeking a maximum contract extension in discussions with the Raptors. Siakam is eligible for either a four-year, $130 million max deal, or a five-year, $170 million max.

据Shams报道,消息人士透露,西亚卡姆正与猛龙协商寻求顶薪续约。西亚卡姆至多可以签下4年1.3亿美元或5年1.7亿美元的顶薪合同。

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[–]Celtics PostModernPost 39 指標 1 天前

Ooof, good luck with that.

凯尔特人球迷:哟,祝猛龙好运

[–]Raptors cheerseveryone22 142 指標 1 天前

Rather pay Siakam the max than Hayward

猛龙球迷:总好过你海沃德拿顶薪吧。

[–]Heat jbenson255 100 指標 1 天前

This isn’t fair at all lmao Hayward was healthy and a better player than siakim is now when they gave him the max

热火球迷:这么说一点都不客观,海沃德拿顶薪那会儿很健康,也比现在的西亚卡姆厉害。

[–]Raptors Cheechers23 17 指標 1 天前

21/5/3.5 on .595 TS% vs 17/7/3 on .628 TS%.

So yes, you are correct in saying better, but not much. Siakam is also younger than Hayward was when he had that season.

猛龙球迷:一个是场均21+5+3.5,真实命中率59.5%;一个是17+7+3,真实命中率62.8%;

是,海沃德确实更好,但是也不多吧。西亚卡姆也比海沃德拿顶薪那会儿年轻吧。

[–]Celtics mr_showboat 967 指標 1 天前

Of course he's seeking the max. He showed his value this past season, and it'd be rough for the Raptors to lose him. I don't really think he's worth the max at this point, but he's improved every season and he could continue to do so. Even if he doesn't keep improving, as long as he keeps playing at the level he played at last season it wouldn't be the worst max contract in the grand scheme of max contracts, even if it's probably an overpay.

凯尔特人球迷:西亚卡姆当然应该寻求顶薪,他上赛季就展示了自己的价值,而且猛龙要是没了他日子也不好过啊。我真不觉得现阶段的他配得上顶薪,可是他每个赛季都在进步,而且还能继续向前。即便他没有继续提升自我,只要他能继续保持上赛季的水准,那在联盟到处都是顶薪的大背景下,他的合同也不会是最水的,哪怕有给高的可能性。

[–]Raptors Broonskk 75 指標 23小時前

That's a problem within the NBA imo. Once you pass a certain threshold, you are worth a max. Problem is there is a pretty wide difference in these max players production around the league

猛龙球迷:我觉得这就是NBA自己的问题了。一旦你跨越了某个门槛,你就值一份顶薪了。可问题是就联盟这些顶薪球员的场上贡献而言,真的是千差万别。

[–]Lakers Guacamoleistoocostly 33 指標 23小時前

Right, in theory a max contract is only appropriate for like 8 players in the league, but if a player has leverage (like Siakam does now or Wiggins did a few years ago) then you can force a team to either offer you the max or lose you for nothing. It's a tough pill to swallow as a franchise or a fanbase.

湖人球迷:对的,理论上来说,联盟里适合拿顶薪的球员大概就8个人,可要是球员有了筹码(就像西卡如今的发挥或者是维金斯几年前的表现),那你就可以迫使球队要么顶薪留你,要么白白失去你。这对球队和球迷来说,就是饮鸩止渴。

[–]EmmitSan 15 指標 18 小時前

Lol Wiggins had NO leverage. Not one team in the league was offering him the max unless the owner’s name was Glen Taylor. He was already acknowledged as overhyped back then

哈哈哈,维金斯当时可没啥筹码。除了那个叫格伦-泰勒的老板,联盟里没有球队愿意给他顶薪。他当时就已被大家看作是高薪低能。

[–][TOR] Peja Stojakovic MrHallmark 10 指標 17 小時前

Siakam is luckily a RFA so we can match. I love Spicy P, but it's a question of how does he perform as the #1 guy.

猛龙球迷:得亏西亚卡姆到时候是个受限制自由球员,这样我们还能匹配报价。我喜欢他,可是你要说他成为主攻手后能拿出怎样的表现,这还是个问号。

[–][TOR] Pops Mensah-Bonsu Saprano44 222 指標 1 天前

Yeah I am hoping that we can get him for around 28-28 Million a year, but realistically if we don't max him now then he will get maxed as an RFA next off-seaon (barring any very unfortunate circumstance).

猛龙球迷:对啊,希望我们能以2800万到2800万的年薪留他,可现实来看,如果我们现在不给他顶薪,那他明年会以受限制自由球员的身份得到顶薪。

[–]Celtics ssjgoat 590 指標 22 小時前

28-28 Million

You're not leaving much wiggle room here for negotiating.

凯尔特人球迷:“2800万到2800万”

老哥你还真是一点谈判的余地都不留啊。

[–]Lakers Zurdo112 432 指標 22 小時前

He meant 28 dollars to 28 million dollars

湖人球迷:他说的是28块到2800万。

[–][TOR] Pops Mensah-Bonsu Saprano44 10 指標 22 小時前

I don't think we should max him now. Only way I would like a deal to get done right now is if he was willing to take a 4 year 100-116 million right now, but he is going to wait it out and will likely be maxed next offseason.

猛龙球迷:我觉得我们现在不该给他顶薪,除非他愿意现在接受4年1到1.16亿的合约。不过他还是会等的,下个休赛期很可能会拿到顶薪。

[–]Raptors BillyPotion 28 指標 22 小時前

Why max him now when worst case scenario we'll just max him next year?

猛龙球迷:既然最差情况是明年我们给他顶薪,那干嘛非得要现在给?

[–]Raptors oryes 45 指標 22 小時前

Exactly, see what he can do as the focal point of a team and then decide. Worst case we pay him a few million more than we would if we signed him right now.

I'm high on Siakam but I think a bit more skeptical than most Raptors fans.

猛龙球迷:对啊,先看看他作为球队的老大拿出怎样的表现再做决定。最差情况也不过是,我们明年多给他几百万。

我很喜欢西亚卡姆,不过我比大部分龙蜜更谨慎一点。

[–]Raptors croserobin 17 指標 22 小時前

Worst case if we wait is he lives up to the hype and gets on the all NBA 3rd team. Then he'll qualify for a 30% max rather than a 25% max.

猛龙球迷:最差情况是,如果等到明年,他没有辜负外界的厚望,跻身赛季最佳阵三阵。那样他就有资格拿到工资帽的30%,而不是25%了。

[–]Raptors Cheechers23 27 指標 18 小時前

If Pascal becomes good enough to be a top 6 forward in the league this season, then fuck it, give him the 30% max, he's earned it

猛龙球迷:要是西亚卡姆新赛季真能成为联盟前6的前锋,那管特么,就按30%的工资帽给他顶薪啊,那也是他争取到的。

[–]Raptors Bananasauru5rex 16 指標 20 小時前

Siakam getting 3rd team all NBA sounds more like the best case. I'd 100% rather give a bigger max to that player than a smaller max to the current Siakam.

猛龙球迷:要是西亚卡姆真进了最佳阵三阵,那倒反而是最佳情况啊。那我绝对愿意给那个时候的他一份更大的合同。

[–]Jonny5Five 22 指標 23小時前

In regards to parity I've always thought the biggest issue was max contracts. If people where paid what they where worth the league would be a lot more even.

就公平性来说,我一直觉得最大的问题就是顶薪合同。要是球员有多大本事拿多少钱,那就合理得多。

[–]stragen595 13 指標 23小時前

You can't give LeBron 90 percent of the cap.

你总不能给詹姆斯球队工资帽的90%吧。

[–]Jonny5Five 13 指標 23小時前

Why not?

干嘛不能?

[–][ORL] Jonathan Isaac Koltonn 40 指標 22 小時前

I am also seeking the max

魔术球迷:我也在寻求顶薪啊。

[–]brydondirty 17 指標 22 小時前

Me too but I'm willing to settle for 1% of the max

我也是啊,不过要是只能拿顶薪的1%,我也接受。

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[–]Rymasq 31 指標 23 小時前

because of Middleton and Tobias Harris all of these "borderline stars" are asking for the same

因为米德尔顿和哈里斯有例在先,现在这些“边缘球星”都一股脑的要顶薪了。

[–]ReliablyFinicky 15 指標 22 小時前

Maybe Siakam wants the max because he's actually worth it, and he's not just a "borderline star".

也许西亚卡姆要顶薪是因为他真值那个价,而且他可不只是一个“边缘球星”。

[–]Raptors OG_Wan_Annunoby 39 指標 21 小時前

It's not an overpayment based on market value at least. Just look at what he has going for him:

Year 3 he proves that he can be a 2nd scoring option on a championship team with nearly 20 points a game throughout the playoffs, with plenty of 30 point outbursts in big games.

He is still a complete forward giving you rebounding, playmaking, and defense at an elite level.

analytical data rates him as an elite perimiter defender and transition scorer, which is pretty much the backbone of every good modern basketball team.

He's 24 years old.

There are guys who have proven less than that and gotten max or near max deals. I think he's an absolute lock for a max deal

猛龙球迷:至少从市场价值来看,给西卡顶薪不算过分。就看看他的资本就知道了:

进入联盟第三个赛季他就证明了自己可以成为一支冠军球队的第二得分选择,整个季后赛场均近20分,而且在一些关键战中也屡有30分的爆发。

他仍然是个相当全能的锋线,有篮板有组织,而且防守也是顶尖的。

数据分析表明他是个顶尖的外线防守人和转换得分手,这基本就是一支出色的现代篮球队伍里的骨干力量了。

他才24岁。

有些贡献比他少的都得到了顶薪或准顶薪,我觉得他绝对该拿顶薪。

[–][DET] Stanley Johnson DetroitHooper313 732 指標 1 天前

what if he doesn’t live up to the contract

活塞球迷:要是他到时候的表现匹配不了那份合同咋说?

[–]Cavaliers clebrink 24 指標 22 小時前

It’s crazy, this is turning in real-life 2K where every player with decent potential is demanding the max.

骑士球迷:真是荒诞,2K都玩到现实里了,有点天赋的球员个个都开始要顶薪了。

[–]Raptors EN_BE_EH 36 指標 1 天前

my concern exactly. i guess the choice is would you rather overpay siakam or not have him? i dont know why a deal below the max isn't an option @ all for these guys. like - is another team really prepared to MAX this guy? and i like siakam.

reminds me of tobias harris. someone was really going to give the max to him?

猛龙球迷:这就是我的担忧。貌似选择是要么多给要么失去他?我就不懂这些人为啥就不能在顶薪之外做些让步。这么说吧,难道真有其他队伍准备好给西亚卡姆顶薪吗?我喜欢西卡。

但是他的情况还是让我想起了哈里斯,当时真的会有其他球队给他顶薪吗?

[–]Heat wormhole222 20 指標 22 小時前

The biggest concerns with giving Harris that contract was defense and playmaking. Siakam is already way better than Harris at both. Also there was some concerns regarding how good of a playoff player Harris will be, and Siakam has already put that to bed too.

热火球迷:当时关于哈里斯那份合同最大的担忧是防守和进攻组织,西卡这两方面已经强于哈里斯了。而且之前还有对哈里斯季后赛表现的担忧,西亚也已经打消了疑虑。

[–]Raptors brokendrive 18 指標 23 小時前

I'd give it to him in a second. He played the second half of last season at an all star level, and was pretty damn good in the playoffs, especially for his first deep run.

Take that gamble any day. I feel like he's not done improving either.

猛龙球迷:要是我的话,立马就给他顶薪了。他上赛季后半段打出了全明星级别的发挥,季后赛也很特么厉害,何况那还是他第一次走这么远。

不管咋说都要赌一把。我觉得他还能进步。

[–]Raptors nooger 18 指標 21 小時前

Real test will be how he does when teams gameplan for him being the #1 or #2 option

猛龙球迷:他的真正考验在于,当球队以他为一号或二号主攻点制定战术的时候,他会有怎样的表现。

[–][PHI] Joel Embiid lardbiscuits 828 指標 1 天前

Toronto has no choice. They don't get free agents.

76人球迷:多伦多没得选啊,他们都招不到自由球员。

[–]Spurs BedfordLincoln6318 652 指標 1 天前

Bro, what are you talking about? They totally signed Hedo Turkoglu a few years back.

马刺球迷:老弟,你说啥呢?人家几年前还签到了特科格鲁呢。

[–]Warriors DumbNumbAndFun 12 指標 21 小時前

They also landed 2x NBA champion Patrick McCaw last year to push them over the edge and get that ring

勇士球迷:人家去年还招到了两届总冠军得住麦考,开光之后才终于夺冠。

[–]Thunder Ssumday_is_love[S] 273 指標 1 天前

And Jeremy Lin

雷霆球迷:还有林书豪。

[–][WAS] Bradley Beal A2daRon 152 指標 1 天前

Fred VanVleet also an undrafted free agent.

奇才球迷:范弗里特当年可也是个落选的自由人呢……

[–]Raptors costcosamples44 313 指標 1 天前

You guys have had one of the most dominant runs in all of sports the past 20 or so years and the only marquee FA you've signed is LaMarcus Aldridge. I think people forget how rare it is for any NBA franchise outside of NY, LA, or Miami to sign FAs with any semblance of regularity. This problem isn't exclusive to Toronto, it's a problem for 26 other franchises.

猛龙球迷:过去20多年来,马刺有那么几年打出过体育界顶级的统治力,可他们唯一签下的大牌自由球员只有阿尔德里奇。我觉得大家都忘了,那些纽约、尼克斯、迈阿密之外的球队签到重量级自由球员的情况有多么罕见。问题不止多伦多有,其他26支球队也免不了。

[–]Spurs BedfordLincoln6318 48 指標 1 天前

Well LaMarcus Aldridge was the biggest free agent that summer by far. LA, New York, and Miami don't always only get the Big Fish. But what you said is right, a lot of franchises like the Raptors have never even come close to signing the biggest free agent of a summer.

马刺球迷:也对,阿尔德里奇确实是我们这些年签到的最大牌自由球员。洛杉矶、纽约、迈阿密也不总是只捞大鱼啊。可是你说的没错,很多像猛龙这样的球队一直都没啥机会得到夏天的最大牌自由人。

[–]Nets aydee123 44 指標 23 小時前

Not even New York really.

Until this past summer with KD and Kyrie, the only big name free agent to sign with the Knicks or Nets in forever was Amar'e, and a big reason for that is that the Knicks offered him way more guaranteed money than other teams.

篮网球迷:就连纽约其实也不是。

在今天夏天得到阿杜和欧文之前,尼克斯或者篮网这些年签下的唯一一个自由市场大鱼就是小斯,主要还是因为尼克斯的钱比其他球队给得多太多。

[–][HOU] Hakeem Olajuwon pieman2005[ ] 11 指標 22 小時前

Houston has done pretty well. Not always free agents but CP3 and Westbrook specifically wanted to play here.

火箭球迷:火箭也还可以啊。不是老盯着自由市场,可是保罗和威少是特意想来休斯顿打球的吧。

[–]Thunder luckyguess0r 12 指標 21 小時前

westbrook wanted to play with harden. the dude lived in okc all his life, i dont think he really cares what city he plays in.

雷霆球迷:威少那是想和哈登一起打球。这哥们儿一生都在俄克拉荷马,我不觉得他真在乎在哪个城市打球。

[–]Raptors costcosamples44 70 指標 1 天前

People keep saying this, but how many franchises in the NBA sign marquee free agents with any modicum of regularity outside of LA, NY or Miami.

[–]Spurs ButtVader 17 指標 23 小時前

KD signed with the Warriors

马刺球迷:除了洛杉矶、纽约和迈阿密,勇士不是得到了杜兰特么

[–]Celtics Conor27 79 指標 1 天前

The Celtics have signed three guys coming off all-star seasons in the last four years shrug

凯尔特人球迷:而且我凯过往四年已经签到了三个刚打出全明星赛季的球员啊(耸肩)

[–]Raptors Life_Of_High 6 指標 22 小時前

Yah but those players are not superstars.

猛龙球迷:嗯,可那些都不是超巨

[–]Celtics sjturner15 34 指標 22 小時前

what superstar has signed with the knicks in the last 25 years?

凯尔特人球迷:那过去25年,尼克斯签过啥超巨?

[–][LAL] Lonzo Ball sirhari 30 指標 21 小時前

Carmelo Anthony?

湖人球迷:安东尼?

[–]Raptors cheerseveryone22 24 指標 1 天前

We didn’t used to but with a ring and the plethora of Canadian talent coming into the league I wouldn’t be surprised if we were able to snag a big free agent in 2021. Plus I think Siakam is worth it look how much y’all paid Tobias Harris lmao

猛龙球迷:我们以前在自由市场确实没吸引力,可是我们夺冠了,而且联盟涌现出了很多加拿大天才,要是我们在2021年的自由市场上捞到一条大鱼我也不会惊讶。再说了,我觉得西亚卡姆值顶薪,看看哈里斯拿多少就知道了,哈哈哈

[–]Smekledorf1996 38 指標 1 天前

Just cause Harris is overpaid, doesn’t mean Siakam won’t be

Siakam is entering his prime at 25, but there’s no guarantee that he’ll be worth that 5 year 170 million dollar contract

你不能因为哈里斯拿多了,就觉得西亚卡姆的合同不会溢价啊。

西亚卡姆在25岁的年纪进入巅峰,可是你没法保证他以后能对得起5年1.7亿的合同啊。

[–]Raptors cheerseveryone22 21 指標 1 天前

I’m just saying the person I responded to acted like Raps have to overpay cuz we get no FA but the whole league is constantly overpaying guys like Tobias Harris.

猛龙球迷:因为你们老说我们在自由市场没有吸引力,所以必须得溢价签西亚卡姆啊,我只是给出回应,整个联盟目前都不断在给哈里斯这种球员溢价合同。

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[–]four4beats 28 指標 23 小時前

Siakam had one good season and is already asking for a max deal? Must be nice.

西亚卡姆上赛季打得很好,这就开始要顶薪了?很棒哦

[–]Celtics whosArbeely 35 指標 1 天前

Siakam a good player. He's not max worthy.

凯尔特人球迷:他很不错,但是不值那个价。

[–]ruthbadergangsburg 25 指標 21 小時前

That's what happens when you're the second major contributor on a championship team.

你要是在一支冠军球队做出了第二多的贡献,那你也可以这么要求。

[–]Trail Blazers Holcan 12 指標 17 小時前

Don't forget playing a position that is most sought after in basketball.

开拓者球迷:别忘了,他那个位置的好手可是联盟紧缺的啊。

[–]Spurs PrawnCocktail 19 指標 1 天前

I was a Siakam doubter for most of this past season, saying he didn't have a left hand. He proved me completely wrong and I would give him the max in a heartbeat.

马刺球迷:上赛季大部分时间我都对西亚卡姆持怀疑态度,还说他左手不好使。结果完全被他打脸,是我就立马给他顶薪。

[–][MIA] Dwyane Wade JumpMaaaaan 292 指標 1 天前

If I was also vital to my own team's first ever championship, I also would demand max money. But that's up to the Raps to decide if he's a player you can build around for the upcoming seasons, then eventually win the chip again. This is like when the Cavs were handing out big money to their championship roster during the free agency. Not saying that Siakam is TT of course.

热火球迷:要是我在球队夺得历史首冠的过程中扮演关键角色,那我也会要顶薪。不过这还得看猛龙,看他们认为西卡是不是球队今后几个赛季的建队基石,并最终带队再次夺冠。这就像当初骑士在自由市场上花大价钱留住冠军阵容一样。当然了,我可没说西亚卡姆是汤普森啊。

[–]Raptors bossmanjr[ ] 56 指標 23 小時前

The big difference is that, with Kawhi leaving, the Raptors will get a full season with him as the first option to evaluate if he is worth the max. I hope they don't extend him early off of one great season and actually take advantage of that trial period, and the extra cap space we will have from waiting until next summer.

The big variable is whether he would feel offended by that and sign a less favorable offer sheet next summer to screw us a little. He doesn't seem like that type of guy, and we have given him lots of opportunities to succeed so far, so i'm not too worried about that. Regardless, I trust in Masai and his handling of the situation.

猛龙球迷:两者还是很有区别的,小卡走了之后,西卡将会整个赛季都承担球队的第一职责,猛龙将借此来评估他是否匹配顶薪。希望猛龙不要仅凭一个赛季要早早与之续约,而是好好利用新赛季这个实验期,好好利用我们等到明夏的额外薪资空间。

有个大变数在于,西卡会不会觉得被冒犯了,然后一气之下明年夏天签个合同小点的报价,阴我们一把。貌似他不是那种人,而且我们一直都在给他机会,所以我不大担心。不管咋说,我相信乌杰里和他的处事能力。

[–]Celtics HorsNoises 14 指標 22 小時前

I don't think most players would be offended by that, but at the same time ik that was part of the reason that Hayward signed the offer sheet with Charlotte however long ago. Utah didn't offer him the money so he went and got it elsewhere and then they still matched it for some reason.

凯尔特人球迷:我觉得大多数球员都不会觉得被冒犯,不过呢,几年前海沃德和黄蜂就这么干过,或多或少也是这个原因吧。当时也是爵士不给他大合同,然后他想走,最后也不知为啥,爵士还是匹配了黄蜂的报价。

[–]Krespino 64 指標 1 天前

Jaylen Brown is demanding $170m. Siakam is clearly better than Brown. Tobias Harris, Middleton are paid at that level. So did Ben Simmons.

杰伦-布朗都在要求1.7亿的大合同。西卡明显比布朗厉害啊。哈里斯、米德尔顿也是按这个区间的数续约的,西蒙斯也是。

[–][DAL] Dennis Smith fishfishfish1345 37 指標 20 小時前

Hold up, Ben is clearly a max level player lol.

独行侠球迷:且慢,西蒙斯明显就是个顶薪实力的球员啊,哈哈

[–]Raptors B oogerSlug 37 指標 21 小時前

Still blows my mind that Jaylen Brown is demanding a max. He's the 3rd best player on the team at most. If it was pre injury Hayward, Brown would be 4th

猛龙球迷:布朗居然敢要顶薪,我到现在都觉得毁三观。他最多只能算凯尔特人第三强的球员,要是海沃德恢复到伤前水准,那他就是第四了。

[–]Timberwolves the___heretic 15 指標 17 小時前

Is it just me or is like everyone in the NBA either a max or minimum player these days? Seems like there’s surprisingly little wiggle room between the two.

森林狼球迷:是不是只有我一个人觉得,现在的NBA球员,个个要不就顶薪,要不就底薪?貌似很奇怪的是,这两者之间压根没有中间地带。

[–]Knick edUp 13 指標 17 小時前

Yep..middle class is gone

对的……中产合同没有了。

[–]Raptors MrkGrn 60 指標 1 天前

People on this sub literally go back and forth on Siakam getting the max. I see Raptors fans say they'd rather not pay him the max yet and people shitting on them saying of course you pay him the max and they'd be stupid not to, then theres posts like this where everyone seems to think hes not worth it at all and that Toronto HAS to pay him the max now or he'll leave and Toronto will never sign a free agent ever again.

猛龙球迷:关于西亚卡姆拿顶薪的事,大家态度区别很大。我看到龙蜜说宁愿先不给他顶薪,然后你们就开喷,说不给就是蠢。然后又有些帖子貌似大家又都在说他压根不值这个价,说啥猛龙“不得不”现在给顶薪,不然他就会走,而多伦多以后再也签不到自由球员了。

[–]Notoriouslydishonest 34 指標 1 天前

Both sides can be true simultaneously.

It's definitely an overpay, but I also don't think Toronto has the option to let him walk. It's just a shitty situation for the front office to be in.

两种立场可以同时存在啊。

这个合同肯定是给大了的,可我觉得多伦多没有让他走人的选择啊。管理层面对的这个境地确实很棘手。

[–]Raptors MarkellNelson 20 指標 23 小時前

Honestly, almost every single contract signed nowadays is an overpay.

猛龙球迷:说实话,现在这个年代签的几乎每份合同都是溢价。

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[–]Rockets aboooz 71 指標 1 天前

If true, there is no point in Toronto paying now strategic wise. They will have a good amount of capspace and Siakam's caphit is pretty small (also hes RFA obvs). So they should wait and see if they can get a couple of good players to pair up with Siakam through free agency or trading into capspace. Only way I see Toronto paying him if he wants the max, is as a good will/trust move if he starts the season really hot. Which, while it will leave a good look on Toronto from him and other players, wouldnt be the smartest move imo.

火箭球迷:要真给顶薪的话,从战略角度来说,多伦多现在续约意义不大啊。他们会有很大的薪资空间,而且西卡对工资帽的冲击也很小。所以他们应该等等,看看能不能招几个好球员和西亚卡姆搭档。我觉得吧,猛龙要真给他顶薪,只能在他赛季初就火爆的前提下以一种释放善意或者表达信任的方式,这也会让西卡和其他人觉得舒服,不过这也不是最明智的操作。

[–]Suns AnAnonymousSource_ 82 指標 1 天前

They should sign him before the cap jumps another 20M in two years. 4 years is a fair gamble considering they have nothing else in the pipes right now and no long term money really.

太阳球迷:再等两年工资帽就又蹿2000万了,他们应该在此之前续约。4年期是很合理的豪赌,毕竟猛龙现在手里也没啥,队里其实也没长期大合同。

[–]NBA dead-serious 18 指標 1 天前

exactly this. best case is that he grows into the contract and lives up to being a #1 option otherwise they'll just be paying market value for him.

就该这样,最佳局面就是他进步后打出那个价值,对得起球队头号进攻点的职责,不然猛龙也就是按市场价值续约他啊。

[–]Raptors Life_Of_High 17 指標 22 小時前

Exactly, Bradley Beal is a good example. That contract is probably the best one the Wizards handed out between Wall, Beal & Porter.

Signed Beal after averaging 17ppg in 2016 and his max is basically a discount right now.

It makes sense for the Raps to sign him to a max now because of cap inflation over the next few years.

猛龙球迷:确实,布拉德利-比尔就是个很好的例子。比起沃尔和波特,比尔的合同或许是奇才处理得最好的。

比尔15/16赛季场均17分之后球队就给了顶薪,现在来看的话,那算是很划算了。

猛龙现在顶薪续约西卡是说得通的,因为今后几年工资帽会膨胀。

[–]Raptors danielisverycool 122 指標 1 天前

He’s not worth it yet, but it makes more sense than giving Harris, Murray, or Middleton the max.

猛龙球迷:他还不值那个价,不过比起哈里斯、穆雷和米德尔顿就说得通了。

[–]76ers thisdudefux 31 指標 1 天前

How come everyone keeps saying "yet"? He's still got so much potential but he's going on 26

76人球迷:怎么你们老说“他还”?他确实有很多潜力,可他都快26了。

[–]Raptors MMPride 13 指標 23 小時前

There's a reason he was Most Improved Player last season, he's improving and hopefully he will keep improving.

猛龙球迷:他上赛季的进步最快球员奖又不是捡的,他在进步啊,希望能继续进步吧。

[–][NOP] Jrue Holiday Cheeseish 59 指標 1 天前

He’s only been playing basketball since high school. That’s way less time than the other players. He has room to grow and he’s younger than Middleton and Tobias, who both got maxes

鹈鹕球迷:他从高中才开始打篮球啊。这比其他人晚太多了。他有成长的空间,而且他比拿了顶薪的米德尔顿和哈里斯都年轻。

[–]Thunder Ssumday_is_love[S] 21 指標 1 天前

I think he is a better play than Middleton and Murray, but giving him a $170 five-year max is still too much imo

雷霆球迷:我觉得他比米德尔顿和穆雷都强,可我觉得给他五年1.7亿还是太多了。

[–]Smekledorf1996 81 指標 1 天前

I wouldn’t put Murray in there since he’s only 22

He’s got more upside cause of his age, but it’s definitely a risk for Denver

我可不会把穆雷和米德尔顿混为一谈,因为他才22.

他还要更大的可塑性,不过掘金这肯定是个冒险操作。

[–]Celtics ssjgoat 11 指標 22 小時前

He also benefits alot from playing with Jokic. I'm not sure he gels well elsewhere as the main distributor.

凯尔特人球迷:约基奇让穆雷受益很多啊。他去其他队做主攻手能不能有这种表现还不好说哦。

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