【键盘侠】近五年联盟战绩Top5|骑士三进总决居然榜上无名!

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Here are the NBA teams with the best record since the 2015-16 season ...

Toronto Raptors : 270 - 122

Golden State Warriors : 270 - 123

Houston Rockets : 254 - 138

San Antonio Spurs : 250 - 141

Boston Celtics : 248 - 144

以下是自15/16赛季以来联盟常规赛战绩最好的五支球队:

多伦多猛龙:270胜122负

金州勇士:270胜123负

休斯顿火箭:254胜138负

圣安东尼奥马刺:250胜141负

波士顿凯尔特人:248胜144负

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[–]Philippines Toobie4564 949 指標 11小時前

It's cool that Spurs are still in the Top 5 even with them not getting to 50 wins in the last 3 seasons.

菲律宾球迷:厉害啊马刺,过去三个赛季的胜场都没到50,居然还能挤进前五

[–]Spurs Carly-Che-Jepsen 451 指標 10小時前

Getting 67 wins in a season will help with that

马刺球迷:这得从那个赛季(15/16)的67胜说起咯

[–][PHI] Andre Iguodala Iputthescrewintuna 10 指標 5小時前

Such an overlooked season.

Understandable since GSW had record 73 wins but the Spurs had tied the record going 40-1 at home which is just insane.

76人球迷:你刺那个赛季的表现真是被忽视了

不过也可以理解,毕竟那赛季的勇士拿下了73胜,然而马刺主场40胜1负追平了历史记录啊,这还是蛮强的

[–]Philippines Toobie4564 5 指標 3小時前

It's only overlooked now but during 2015-16 the Spurs were talked about a lot. They had one of the best defenses of all time and there was a possibility of them also breaking the Bulls' 72-10 record.

People were anticipating aWarriors vs Spurs WCF that they say would be the REAL NBA finals which everyone expected was going to be one of the best series ever.

It's just that they underachieved in the playoffs by losing in the second round and now people tend to forget about them because the Thunder and Warriors' 3-1 collapse were more memorable.

菲律宾球迷:15/16赛季的马刺只是现在被遗忘了,但在当时的话,大家还是议论纷纷的。他们那个赛季打出了历史级的防守,甚至一度还有可能超越公牛72胜10负的战绩。

当时大家都期待马刺和勇士能在西决相遇,还说这才是人人期待的、可以跻身历史最佳系列赛的总决赛。

可惜他们在季后赛还是没打好,第二轮就失手了。现在咱们容易忘记这一茬,那是因为雷霆和勇士先后挥霍3-1的大比分领先优势更有记忆点。

[–]Philippines Toobie4564 258 指標 10小時前

And 61 wins the following season

菲律宾球迷:而且之后那个赛季马刺又是61胜。

[–][SAS] Brent Barry jeewantha 18 指標 11小時前

I hate how this record will get much worse for us in the coming years. I really don't see MVP potential in any of our young players. I hope we don't sign DeRozan at least.

马刺球迷:接下来好些年我们的战绩就越来越没眼看了,真是烦。我真不觉得我们现在这帮年轻人里有谁具备MVP的潜力。真希望当初没签来德罗赞。

[–]Raptors sleepy416 65 指標 10小時前

Also the Cavs not being on here. Made the finals three years in a row and won a chip in that time frame and they still aren't top 5. Lebron is special man...

猛龙球迷:骑士居然不在前五榜单上。连着三个赛季打进总决赛,还拿过总冠军,居然不在战绩前五。老詹不一般呐……

[–]Heat mhj0808 5 指標 10小時前

And the most notable not here obviously, the Cavs. Not in the top 5 for records but made the finals almost every year.

热火球迷:楼主这名单里没有骑士才是最惹眼的,毕竟他们几乎年年进总决赛。

[–]Pacers CrateBagSoup[ ] 57 指標 10小時前

Three years of 50-30 ish to two years of 20-60 ish. Feel like Lebron should have his own line to compare on here.

步行者球迷:骑士最近这五年有三年的战绩是50胜30负左右,另外两年大概是20胜60负。我觉得应该拿老詹的个人战绩去比。

[–]Celtics eaglessoar 14 指標 9小時前

Lebron:

19-20: 47 - 13

18-19: 28 - 27

17-18: 50 - 32

16-17: 51 - 23

15-16: 56 - 20

232 - 115

凯尔特人球迷:詹姆斯:19/20赛季:47胜13负;18/19赛季:28胜27负;17/18赛季:50胜32负;16/17赛季:51胜23负;15/16赛季:56胜20负

总共232胜115负

[–]Raptors sleepy416 17 指標 10小時前

I think kyrie leaving also set them back these last two years. I think they knew when Lebron signed that he won’t stay there the rest of his career, but they thought Kyrie would still be there to take over when he does leave. Kyrie and love would still be a respectful team in the east with the right pieces around them. It’s not the only reason for their struggles but I think it’s a big one.

猛龙球迷:我觉得骑士近两个赛季战绩不行也和欧文的离开有关。当初老詹回克利夫兰的时候,我觉得骑士知道他不会在此终老,可是他们以为欧文不会走,这样就能在老詹离开的时候接管球队。欧文配乐福,在加上合适的配角,这套阵容在东部还是有面儿的。欧文的离开虽说不是骑士战绩拉胯的唯一原因,但我觉得也算是蛮重要了。

[–][BOS] Paul Pierce Holmes20 100 指標 11小時前

Can't believe we traded Pierce and KG in 2013 and still somehow manage to be in the top 5 records from 15-20. Ainge deserves a fucking medal.

凯尔特人球迷:不可思议啊,我们13年送走了皮尔斯和加内特,居然还能在最近五个赛季挤进总战绩前五。这特么不得给安吉发个奖状啊!

[–]Raptors Ting_Brennan 48 指標 10小時前

This is pretty much the dream rebuild for any team. Trade/lose your superstar coach and players, only miss the playoffs a single year, then back to contender status in a few years with a superstar (IT, Kyrie, Tatum). A lot of things have to go right, but Ainge definitely deserves more praise.

猛龙球迷:你凯这基本就是每个球队梦寐以求的重建路线了。失去超巨级的教练和球星之后,就一次没打进季后赛,用不了几年就又靠着一个超巨(小托马斯、欧文、塔图姆)回到了争冠行列。很多步骤得面面俱到才行,不过安吉绝对担得起更多的褒奖。

[–][SAC] De'Aaron Fox Boxcar-Mike 7 指標 10小時前

w/out Hayward's injury and if Kyrie had worked out...there was a chance that they were going to the Finals for a few years. It's a remarkable job by Ainge. He set them up as best as anyone could.

国王球迷:假如海沃德没伤,假如欧文在凯尔特人打出来了……他们甚至还有机会进几次总决赛。安吉的工作相当出色,他把一支重建球队带到了极致。

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[–]Heat Respected-Watcher 789 指標 11小時前

If anything the rockets record is most notable here

254 wins in a historically stacked west and never made the finals

热火球迷:火箭这战绩怕是最引人注目的吧。

在高手如云且空前强大的西部居然能拿到254胜,而且还没打进过总决赛……

[–]Raptors DavidKirk2000 286 指標 11小時前

And that’s also them having a shitty record in 2015-16. Impressive stuff.

猛龙球迷:并且他们15/16赛季的战绩也是稀烂。有点东西啊

[–]Rockets HumbleVacation3 167 指標 11小時前

We never made the finals but we were the second best team during the CP3 era.

火箭球迷:虽说我火这五年没进过总决赛,可是在保罗时期,我们就是联盟第二强的球队。

[–]Heat Respected-Watcher 137 指標 11小時前

Yeah I agree, I’m convinced if Paul didn’t pull his hamstring against the warriors you win the title

热火球迷:没毛病,我觉得要是保罗打勇士的时候腿筋没拉伤的话,冠军就是你们的了。

[–]Rockets HumbleVacation3 121 指標 11小時前

Game 7 against the Warriors would still be close, but we were definitely better then the Cavs.

火箭球迷:他要是没伤,那年G7打勇士应该会很接近,可我们当时肯定比骑士强。

[–]jackjack320455 32 指標 10小時前

WCF that year was the true finals.

那年的西决才是真正的总决赛。

[–]electric_vindaloo 43 指標 10小時前

I don’t know if the rockets beat the warriors just because they’re the warriors, but if it went to game 7 it would’ve been really close and the rockets wouldn’t have missed 27 straight threes because CP wouldn’t allow it, he would’ve drove to the basket or do some simple pick n rolls with Capela to get them going

假设保罗没伤,我也不知道火箭能不能干掉勇士,因为人家可是勇士啊。可G7的场面应该会非常接近,而且火箭也不会三分27连铁,因为保罗不会允许这种情况出现,他会冲击篮下,要不就和卡佩拉打些简单挡拆。

[–]ramps14 29 指標 10小時前

I think you mean during CP3's first year. There were a couple of teams that were clearly better last year. However that 2018 team and the cavs 2017 team are at the top of the best teams to never win the championship

你说的是保罗在火箭的第一个赛季吧,他在火箭的第二赛季,实力明显比火箭强的球队还是有几支的。可是呢,18年季后赛那支火箭和17年那支骑士就是最强无冠球队中的佼佼者。

[–]Timberwolves 6Big_Barry9 13 指標 10小時前

16’ warriors were better than both of those teams

森林狼球迷:16年的无冠勇士比这两支都强。

[–]David_H21 7 指標 8小時前

2017 Cavs were not that good lmao. They could not play defense. You're not going anywhere if you cant play defense. Spurs were definitely better in 2017, and probably the Rockets too. Cavs were maybe the 4th best team in the league that year.

笑死个人,17年那支骑士还真没那么厉害。他们防守不行啊,没有防守还能嘚瑟到几时?17年季后赛的马刺肯定比骑士强吧,或许还有火箭。那一年的骑士实力也许只能排到联盟第四。

[–]Thunder HeDrinkMilk 41 指標 10小時前

2015-2016 Thunder too. Everyone jokes about GSW blowing a 3-1 lead but seem to leave out the part about GSW overcoming 3-1 in the series right before that.

雷霆球迷:还有15/16赛季的我雷。大家都嘲笑勇士浪掉了3-1的优势,可你们似乎忘了勇士在此之前的系列赛是在我雷身上1-3逆转的。

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[–]Raptors Sprinkle_Salt 25 指標 9小時前

This stat is why our fan base can be maddening sometimes. This stat is why DeRozan will always have a special place in most fans hearts. This is why we love JV, Demar, Kyle, Etc. so much and why we as fans may come off as obnoxious. We have been spoiled these last five, six years with amazing basketball and we’re proud of these teams. Many of us fans went through some pretty rough times since the team was created and now we have been able to enjoy some magical seasons.

猛龙球迷:正是因为这种数据,所以我们龙蜜才会偶尔抓狂,所以德罗赞在大多数龙蜜心中会永远有一席之地,所以我们才会这么喜爱瓦兰丘纳斯、德罗赞和洛瑞等人,所以我们这帮球迷才会有面目可憎的时候。过去这五六年的出色表现把我们都惯坏了,我们以这期间的猛龙为骄傲。我们当中有很多人从球队建立之初就经历过一些难熬的岁月,如今我们已经能享受一些美妙的赛季了。

[–]Raptors daydreamin511 529 指標 12小時前

I dont care for the attention regarding our record but as a personal fan and seeing the dark era of raptors, barely scraping the 8th seed or 50 wins to seeing this record it makes me happy. Gotta appreciate this until we’re no longer elite

猛龙球迷:其他人不关心我们这几年的战绩我不在乎,不过作为一个见证过猛龙暗黑岁月的球迷,从那些年的50胜都够呛、第八基本与我们无关,再看到现在这战绩,我真的很高兴。趁着我们还没退出顶尖行列,必须得好好嘚瑟一把。

[–]Raptors rcoberle_54 10 指標 10小時前

I remember the early bosh days and early derozan days where we were barely scraping 20 wins. This era of raptors basketball has been unreal.

猛龙球迷:我还记得波什时代和德罗赞时代早期的时候,我们连赛季20胜都难。这个时代的猛龙感觉好不真实。

[–]Kings jacobmerc 368 指標 11小時前*

“Dark era... barely scraping the 8th seed or 50 wins”

Cries in Sacramento Kings

国王球迷:“暗黑岁月……50胜都够呛、第八基本与我们无关”

国王哭了……

[–]Raptors Karl_with_a_C 23 指標 10小時前

There's a comma. We were trash. There was a time when Andrea Barngani was our "star player".

猛龙球迷:这只是暂时的嘛,我们以前也很垃圾啊。巴尼亚尼一度还是我们的“王牌球员”。

[–]Raptors YeahFella 35 指標 10小時前

We were pretty much the Kings from like 2002 until we made that trade with you guys in December 2013 (minus 2 truly mediocre playoff experiences in 07 and 08). Then everything changed. Maybe we traded away our bad mojo and gave you guys a surplus haha.

猛龙球迷:大概从02年开始,直到我们在13年12月和国王做交易,这期间的猛龙基本就和这些年的国王一样。然后一切都焕然一新。也许是我们把霉运转嫁到国王身上了,哈哈哈

[–]mycrappybike 22 指標 10小時前

It's amazing how underrated that trade was. That trade didn't really include any major players (Rudy Gay was already washed up), but it brought in a winning culture overnight that has remained ever since.

当年这笔交易的价值确实是被大大低估了。交易本身其实并没涉及到什么大牌球星(盖伊那会儿已经江河日下),不过一夜间就给猛龙带去了持续至今的赢球文化。

[–]Nuggets FalsyB 10 指標 10小時前

What was the trade and why was it significant?

掘金球迷:到底是啥交易这么重要?

[–]Raptors Slaphappydap 42 指標 10小時前

Raptors traded Rudy Gay, his enormous contract, and a couple of role players to Sacremento for Vasquez, Patrick Patterson, Salmons and Hayes. Vasquez put in some nice time for us at PG, and Patterson was one of those sneaky 3 and D guys who have great analytics even if his personal numbers aren't huge.

Moving Gay unlocked Lowry and Derozen, let Terrence Ross emerge, and added some quality veterans to the team during a transition period. Between that trade and moving Bargnani to the Knicks you can draw a pretty straight line through the Ujiri era to the championship team, using pieces and space to get Ibaka, moving some good players to get Gasol, drafting well, etc.

Gay, for us, held the ball more that we'd like, wasn't terribly efficient, shot too many 2's instead of 3's and his contract was a burden. I think he's evolved his game a bit, but at the time we just couldn't find the right fit at SF.

猛龙球迷:(13年12月)我龙交易掉了盖伊和他大合同,再加上两个角色球员(昆西-阿西和阿隆-格雷),从萨克拉门托得到了萨尔蒙斯、查尔斯-海耶斯、瓦斯奎斯和帕特森。瓦斯奎斯在控卫位置为我们打出过一些不错的表现,帕特森虽说个人数据并不亮眼,但他也是老辣的3D球员之一。

送走盖伊就解放了洛瑞和德罗赞,泰伦斯-罗斯得以冒尖,之后我们又在过渡期引进了一些高水准老将。

盖伊在猛龙期间,如我们所愿可以更多的持球,但并不是很高效,他的两分球太多,而且大合同也是个负担。我觉得他如今已经长球了一点,不过当时的他并不是我们想要的小前锋。

[–]Raptors ohgosh_thejosh 17 指標 9小時前

And never forget we flipped Vasquez for Norman Powell and a first rounder lol

猛龙球迷:别忘了我们后面又用瓦斯奎斯换来了鲍威尔和一个首轮签,哈哈哈

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[–]Precology 48 指標 11小時前

Surprised to see that my Bulls aren't on this list.

我牛居然不在这份榜单上!

[–]Suns faze_ogrelord 18 指標 10小時前

Surprised to see that my Suns aren't on this list.

太阳球迷:我太阳居然不在这份榜单上!

[–]Clippers GilClips 492 指標 11小時前

Okay, now do the bottom 5!

快船球迷:行吧,现在可以上倒数前五榜单了

[–]Trail Blazers TimIsStrong 994 指標 10小時前

It’s literally just the knicks 5 times

开拓者球迷:那基本就是尼克斯出现5次咯

[–][SEA] Kevin Durant WestleyThe 220 指標 10小時前

Knicks, kings, Twolves, lakers, Phoenix

If I was to guess

超音速球迷:要我猜的话,就是尼克斯、国王、森林狼、湖人、太阳

[–]ImProbably TakinADump 69 指標 9小時前

Close replace Lakers and Wolves with Bulls and Nets

差不多,可以把湖人和森林狼换成公牛和篮网

[–]Bucks displaced-badger 21 指標 10小時前

Magic maybe?

雄鹿球迷:或许还有魔术?

[–]Brazil Brazilian-Icelandic 43 指標 8小時前

Wolves: 162-230

Magic: 161-231

As a wolves fan i'm kinda surprised by that tbh

巴西球迷:过去五年战绩,森林狼:162胜230负,魔术:161胜231负

作为狼蜜,我还真有点惊讶

[–][LAL] Lonzo Ball marcello153 21 指標 8小時前

Jimmy and the third stringers

湖人球迷:多亏了巴特勒和你狼的第三阵容===

[–]Bucks Kchronis 3 指標 10小時前

Im curious to see how much ahead the warriors would be if they didnt suck this year

雄鹿球迷:勇士要是这赛季没拉胯的话,那我好想知道他们能领先多少

[–]Celtics lferreira86 285 指標 11小時前

The fact the Warriors went 15-50 and are still the second best team of the last half decade shows how insane that roster was

凯尔特人球迷:勇士这赛季已经15胜50负了,过去五年的战绩居然还是联盟第二,足以说明他们那套阵容是多么地变态

[–]76ers Sour__Cream 121 指標 11小時前

Second best team by one game too. Technically speaking if the Raptors lose their first game in the dome, the Warriors retake that #1 spot

76人球迷:而且他们也就落后猛龙一场。严格来说,要是猛龙复赛后首场输球了,那勇士过去五年的战绩就是第一了。

[–]Warriors pikindaguy 225 指標 13小時前

If you exclude that and throw in 14-15 where we won 67 games the gap would be even greater. We also won 51 games the year before that too.

勇士球迷:不算这个,加上14/15赛季我们赢的67场,那差距还要更大,而且再往前一个赛季我们我们51胜

[–]effhomer 615 指標 12小時前

It's almost like this time period was specifically chosen to highlight the raptors accomplishments

感觉楼主选的这个时间段就是为了故意突出猛龙的成绩

[–]choose usernameeeeeee 49 指標 12小時前

And the other time periods mentioned would be cherry picked to show GS stats. Still impressive.

那要是选其他时间段又会被说成刻意表现勇士。猛龙还是蛮厉害的。

[–]oneloveli 183 指標 13小時前

What is wrong with an underappreciated team posting facts to remind people how good they have been? Raptors deserve more attention and respect for what they have been doing in the past 6 years.

This sub is usually reasonable and educated. I don't know why it produces so much hatred when it comes to Raptors...

一支认可度不够的球队摆事实告诉大家他们有多厉害,何错之有?就凭过去6年的表现,猛龙担得起更多的关注和敬意。

这个专区一般都是很有教养且讲道理的。不知道为啥说到猛龙就那么多黑的。

[–]Hawks WhosYourPapa 80 指標 12小時前

Because if you've been in this sub long enough you know that literally all Raptors fans do is complain about how they don't get enough respect. It's one of the constants of this subreddit, along with Lakers and Celtics fans thinking every free agent is going to them, Philly fans overreacting, and Magic fans being nonexistent

老鹰球迷:因为你在这区里混得要是够久的话就知道,猛龙球迷总是抱怨他们怎么怎么没得到足够的尊重。他们的抱怨,再加上湖蜜和凯蜜觉得每个自由球员都会去他们那,76人球迷的小题大做,魔术球迷的毫无存在感,这些都是这个专区的常态。

[–]Celtics Tellsyouajoke 20 指標 12小時前

Most Celtics fans know we won’t ever get a FA.

We just believe all our draft picks are gonna be Hall of Famers and Ainge will get Luka in exchange for our 2030 second round pick and a random pick from Memphis or something.

凯尔特人球迷:我们大部分凯蜜都知道,我们得不到大牌的自由球星。

我们就是相信自家所有的选秀签都能进入名人堂,而且安吉会用我们的2030年二轮签和随便从灰熊得到的选秀签,换来东契奇==

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